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Moving to Montana
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Janet    Posted 11-27-2001 at 10:16:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hi,
I just found this site and have enjoyed reading everyone's posts. My husband and I are looking to move to Montana sometime within the next 3 months. Can anyone give me any input about the best place to live? I'm looking for a rural setting in an agricultural area (no housing developments or malls!), no crime, friendly people - just the basic things to have a good life! Any thoughts, suggestions, and/or opinions are appreciated! Thanks!


Alison    Posted 04-29-2004 at 09:53:07       [Reply]  [Send Email]
hello everyone.
my partner recentlygota job in emigrant a few months ago and moved out from new england to work ona ranch there. i will be going out at the end of may to a cabin that has just been renovated for us.
thing is, i have a two year old son...and alot of the time i get nervous about the move with him. i have never been to montana and have lived between new england and new york city all my life. can anyone tellme about what life m ight be like with a two year oldliving in montana? any advice would be appricated:)
thanks!


Jane Doe    Posted 04-25-2004 at 17:35:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I am a resident of Livingston, MT and have been for my whole life. Livingston is not as bad as people like to portray it. It is a great place to raise your kids, and yes, there is crime here, but where in America is there not? It is beautiful here and there is nothing to worry about. I dont think there could be a better place.


MT Native    Posted 10-20-2003 at 11:42:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do you enjoy wind? The color Brown? Do you really, really, really, like cold? Do you enjoy the indoors?

Montana is brown for most of the year. The grass goes dormant in the winter, and gets fried in the summer. There is not enough water to go around, the farmers get first crack at it.

Winter starts in September. This year there was snow in Red Lodge on June 30th! The wind blows all the time. Most of the state is below zero for most of the time between November and May. We trick or treat in snow suits and hunt easter eggs with snow suits on. (But, there are lots of places to hide eggs in the snow!)

One spends most of their time indoors. It is cold for much of the time November to May, and in the summer months it can be horribly hot, as well as the fact that one gets eaten by bugs, while outdoors! Do you like bugs? Cuz there are lots and lots of different kinds of them here! Mosquitos, nats, giant grass hoppers, box elder bugs, centipedes, spiders of all kinds of varieties. If you don't like them, count on paying extermination costs in your monthly budget.

In the mountains you must constantly be on the lookout for mountain lions and bears, as well as rattlesnakes. The kids can not just play outdoors.

There are very few jobs. This is a reality. The pay is much lower here and many costs are much higher. Heating and cooling costs are very high.

The price of fruit and vegatables as well as seafood, is astronomical!

Think it over. And over again. The people in Montana are great, but we are sick of outsiders coming in and trying to turn our great state into the state the "outsiders" left! So, in some communities you may not be welcomed. Especially in the smaller communities.

Visit Montana in January or February. Then if you think you still want to move, rent a place in the community you think you would like, for a year, then make up your mind.

Sorry to be so harsh. But, this is the reality of Montana. No candy coating. People have some sort of unrealistic idea that Montana is the great nirvana....that they will move there and be in paradise. Reality is much more harsh.


nikki    Posted 05-08-2004 at 20:27:54       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I agree with the replier after me...
Are you trying to chase outsiders off?
Let me say this about where I live:
I have walked down the street to the market across the street in broad day light, and came face to face with a man while he pretended to work on his car.
I cannot walk my dog on the same street near my place without getting honked at...or have a car pull up with some drunk guy asking me "HOW MUCH BABEE?"
Gangs paint there logos on every wall advertising the drugs they sell and what kind.
There are homeless people living under every freeway underpass...and also up in the bushes around the freeways.
I cannot go to the market without being approached by these people...ONE man actually took money from my hands in a fast food place as I walked up to the counter to give my order.
Back to GANGS...there are drive by shootings daily if not in this city any where within miles of here.
We have helicopters also buzzing over head almost daily looking for either lost children (because almost ever family house hole is filled with gangs and drug users)OR they are looking for criminals.
We have had in this trailer park in the 7 years I have lived here: one suicide, uncountable thefts, in homes and cars as well as the cars themselves, two trailers that got busted for cooking and selling METH, one trailer that sold drugs and whores with it and partied all night long along with fighting too.
We have had Gypsies living here taking advantage of the kindness of neighbors and using the welfare system for there personal way of financial relief. While the men work under the table and the women breed kids faster that cats.
BUGS? we got them too.
Lately it has been over 90 degrees here in MAY.
Ok my list goes on and on.
I have visited Montana No not in the dead of winter...but I would rather deal with all you wrote than the toxic hell I live in every day.
Thanks for being so neighborly.
I KNOW that Montana is in no danger of being over run by OutSiders...Just a few of us people that want to live out our lives in a better environment.


4Leaving4Montana    Posted 12-08-2003 at 23:52:14       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hmmmm.....I have to ask, are you being harsh for a reason...like trying to tell it like it is or trying to chase off another "outsider"? Every state has their drawbacks....people should just try to figure out if Their Place has as few as they can tolerate. We currently live in northern Illinois and this place is also brown most of the time, has too many cars, too much pollution, nuclear plants that you can SEE, nothing to look at expect more cars going down the street, trees are what I would consider scarce, and the snowfall is a damn joke.... Bugs I can learn to live with, overly hot summers I'm already used to, yes we really love the cold and it isn't cold enough here, and we already spend alot of time at home so why not "home" in Montana? We don't personally plan to be an outsider for long....we plan to make Montana our home, for good.


ARICA    Posted 08-29-2002 at 10:46:00       [Reply]  [Send Email]
HIYA EVERYONE!
MY NAME IS ARICA AND I NEED TO GET OUT OF CALIFORNIA!I WILL BE GETTING MARRIED TO MY BESTFRIEND JEREMY IN OCTOBER THIS YEAR.WE HAVE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT MOVING OUT TO MONTANA.THAT HAS BEEN OUR LONG TIME DREAM.
WHERE IN MONTANA?,WE HAVE NO IDEA.NOW TO SOME OR TO ALL OF YOU THIS MOST LIKELY SOUNDS LIKE THE MOVIES BUT WE ARE READY TO JUST PACK UP AND GO.WE ARE BOTH EMPLOYED AT THE TIME.WE HAVE NO CLUE ON WHERE TO GET STARTED TO LOOK OR FIND JOBS OUT THERE.WE HAVE NO CHILDREN AND ARE WILLING TO DO JUST ABOUT ANY TYPE OF WORK.
WE ARE BOTH KINDA YOUNG :) I'M 22 AND JER IS 27.I GREW UP AROUND HORSES AND SO HAS HE.IT IS VERY HARD & EXPENSIVE TO HAVE HORSES OUT HERE.WE ALSO PLAN ON HAVING A FAMILY BUT DO NOT PLAN ON RAISING THEM OUT HERE.
I'M A SECRETARY IN A MANUFACTURING BUILDING AND JEREMY WORKS AS A WAREHOUSEMAN.WE CAN DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.
SO, PLEASE IF ANYONE HAS ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW AND WHERE TO GET STARTED.....PLEASE,PLEASE, GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS RAT RACE.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
GOD BLESS,ARICA


Bee Ranch    Posted 11-30-2001 at 16:57:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
How did moving to Montana get mixed up with politics? What state is there that does have both parties?

Having spent several years in N.D. I traveled many times across to central Mt. Many different types of scenery. Haying was the only kind of farming I saw going on.

My daughter graduated from Mt. State at Bozman. That is a lovely place]expensive] Hiking in the summer time and skying in the winter but as everywhere you live there will be that which is evil. Check out their chrime rate and I think you will find it lower than many other states.

That which you can enjoy is the fresh air and s-p-a-c-e, also you are not crowded on the highway. The people are much like everywhere else "if you want friends you must first show yourself friendly". So says SOLOMAN.

Wishing you much hapiness in the big country.



Harvey    Posted 11-29-2001 at 20:34:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Travelled a bit years ago in Montana When I lived down south in Lethbridge,Alberta. Last trip through stopped in Great Falls and left right away. Police had been having lot of trouble and were posted everywhere even in fast food joints where we tried to get meal late at night. We had been in the Dakotas when the bikers were gathering and this was an eye opener. Glad to be back in Alberta. I recommend travelling north to Alberta even better to northern Alberta to the Peace River Country. Lots of space, mostly great weather, hunting and fishing, parks galore and scenery like no where else.


ShepFL    Posted 11-29-2001 at 18:33:38       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Got any room for a do-boy, ranch hand, gopher etc? :-)
I am originally from N. Idaho (Sandpoint and Bonners Ferry area). I now live in N. FL trying to save $$ to move back. To flat, hot, muggy and buggy here in FL for my tastes. FL however does have its own beauty.

Were I going to move to Montana I would consider Thompson Falls area. Livingston is little big for my tastes. Don't know much about Billings. My childhood friends live in Noxon which is a wide spot in the road.

Be prepared for some long winters and mild weather - August it gets hot but by the end of September, Halloween at the latest snow is generally hitting the high country.

Best of luck and remember to be cordial. No one wants another "outsider" moving in to try and change things.

On the ranch hand bit, I have 2 utility tractors and 1 backhoe that can do some work. :) Got 2 boys coming up that should be good hands when they get some more size to them. LOL!! Best of luck and send pics from time to time!!


big fred    Posted 11-28-2001 at 21:35:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Like others have said, Montana is big (amazingly big) and has a wide variety of scenery and climate. Probably best to visit, especially this time of year or in Jan or Feb, as the weather will be worst then. I haven't seen others mention it, but consider how far it is to medical care if you are retiring, as some parts of Montana and other rural states are a long way from the nearest hospital.


froger    Posted 11-28-2001 at 20:38:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
go to Butte Montana.com and read what they have.


TomH    Posted 11-28-2001 at 16:32:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
Last time I was in Montana it was 51 degrees below zero (that was in Yellowstone Park, pretty high in the mountains, but still...)

Also consider the Black Hills region of South Dakota. Really pretty country.


Dwight    Posted 11-28-2001 at 04:12:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Have a cousin that lives in Livingston. Went through there in 98. Had a pleasent visit and the pretties were everywhere. Her husband was a cowboy and finaly had to give it up because of aching body and COLD weather.

Another thought tho. I have found that the people that frequent this board are some of the nicest people around, (except for a couple of democrats) so why don't you go ahead and make the move, enjoy the scenery, weather etc., and then you be the catalist to change any old grouches, theives etc., into kountrylife type of folks.

Only drawback, if you run into any democrats, you may have to beat that out of them!!!

Pray about your decision, good luck, and let us know.

Dwight


Burrhead    Posted 11-28-2001 at 16:28:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
Now that was'nt a very nice comment Dwight.
This board is supposed to be the serious side of the forum for KL. Supposedly used as a tool for country living info.

In all truth, if you run into a real Democrat you should salute him/her and shake their hand.

If you hang out in conservative circles like you recommend, then you won't see many honest sincere people.

The whiney conservative dribble like yours goes on the other board. They eat your kinda wimp stuff up over on the Tractor Tales board.


Nimrod    Posted 11-29-2001 at 18:30:16       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Burrhead

Would that include Hitlary? I have a salute for her alright.

Nimrod


big fred    Posted 11-28-2001 at 21:26:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
Burr, I will agree with you, partly. That was an unkind comment. And I will even allow as to how there are probably dozens of fine folks that are Democrats. Heck, there's probably even some pretty decent sorts that are lawyers.


Burrhead    Posted 11-29-2001 at 13:43:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't know as I have never met a nice lawyer 8^)


bob    Posted 12-02-2001 at 06:05:02       [Reply]  [No Email]
god Burrhead are we the only two people who see the light or is it we didn,t start life with a golden spoon


Burrhead    Posted 12-02-2001 at 14:46:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
Bob don't let them boys mislead you. They was bragging about having Hillary in office.

She's both a Dem and a lawyer and they love her.


Cowboy Joe    Posted 11-28-2001 at 19:07:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
I agree with Burrhead on that one.


Slo    Posted 11-28-2001 at 17:50:58       [Reply]  [No Email]
After Al Gore, he calls conservatives wimps. I really want a case of whatever it is you drink to get that point of view :-)


Burrhead    Posted 11-28-2001 at 19:45:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
still hung up on Al Gore huh????? you're still on the wrong board.


Mutt    Posted 11-28-2001 at 00:19:44       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi Janet, you may want to check out the town of Livingston MT. 112 miles west of Billings, 52 miles from yellowstone park. A nice little town, has plenty of shopping places, but not what you would call malls, most people are friendly some aint, and they do have some crime. I have spent a month each year there for the past 10 years, and havn't gotten mugged or held up, did get robbed at one gas station last fall though. But as Bobduck said its a beautiful place.


SA    Posted 11-27-2001 at 23:53:48       [Reply]  [No Email]
Looking for a place to live? Might I suggest a house as a tent or teepee is a bit cold for Mt.! Also, looking for a place with no crime or shopping malls? Mt. is a beautiful wonderful place but, Utiopia it isn't.


Cowboy Joe    Posted 11-27-2001 at 18:20:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
A number of years ago I visited Miles City, MT. It's definetly an agricultural/ranching community. In fact it's the cowboy capital of MT.


Bobduck    Posted 11-27-2001 at 16:22:33       [Reply]  [Send Email]
The more populated areas are basically west of the continental divide, especially the Flathead, Bitterroot and Gallatin valleys. There you will find the malls, expensive housing and a lot of people. Of course, that's where the pretty mountains are.

East of the divide is almost all agricultural and much more sparcely (sp?) populated. Good people and community involvement. Of course, this does not include the major population centers over there of Great Falls and Billings.

There isn't the scenery and the weather is much more extreme on the east side compared to the west side of the divide.

There are a lot of great, very small, agricultural towns along highway 2 (called the Highline in Montana) east of the divide. But it's very cold and no scenery. If you go to some of the small towns further south there are isolated mountain ranges close to many of them. some of my favorite small towns are Big Sandy, White Sulphur Springs, Whitehall and other towns in those areas.

If you haven't visited Montana I would suggest you do so, there is a very wide variation in the climate, scenery and people in various parts of the state.

Hope this helps.

Bobduck
Bigfork, Montana


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