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Those blasted beavers are winning!
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Anne in TN    Posted 12-01-2001 at 08:44:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
I believe I wrote about this some time ago.

We live next to a lake. It spills over making a stream onto the property of
the neighbor behind us. Now Beavers have dammed up the stream and it has
backed up so much that it made another pond on their property. The pond
has recently expanded onto our property and flooded some of our pasture.
The neighbors gave us permission to tear down the dam and trap the beaver
but I couldn't find anyone willing to trap the beaver for free and relocate
them. Most people wanted to kill 'em.

My husband tore the dam down once and the beavers came back in a month
and rebuilt it. My husband tore it down again and the beaver had it back the
next day. It is not easy to tear down the dam. In fact, it is dangerous as
my husband has to wade through four foot deep water in his rubber
trousers. The mud on the bottom is like quick sand and causes hard suction
on my husbands feet. If he falls once, he could drowned as the water will fill
up his trousers and make it too heavy for him to get out.

The biggest reason we wanted to get rid of the pond was not only because
it was taking up a good size portion of our pasture, but also because we are
afraid it will kill this one lone hugh magnificiant pine tree that is right there
beside it.

Yesterday I got to thinking that maybe this new pond is not such a bad
thing. Maybe the horses can drink from it. We really don't have any other
source of water that doesn't use electricity to produce. We are not allowed
to use the lake. Maybe we could even use it for our toilets should there be
no electricity.

The only problem I can see right now for using the pond is that, on our side,
it is just barely covering the grass and not really deep enough to fill buckets
of water. Also, I don't know how good it would be for the horses as it would
be polluted with dying grass and just plain stagnated from not being near
the direct flow of the stream.

Do any of you know how dirty the water can be for a horse? Maybe we
could ask a forester or someone like that to see if he thinks we will loose our
pine tree. Maybe the new pond is worth more than the pine tree. Maybe
nature knows better what is best for this land than we do.

What say you all?


kyle    Posted 12-06-2001 at 16:18:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Myself i would trap them and sell the furs since i do it quite a bit but if you are not willing to kill them i would suggest doing what my neighbor did when beavers took over the creek in his field he contacted South dakota game fish and parks and they came out with live traps and caught every single one of the critters and moved them onto other land far away.....better to let game wardens take care of it...since you need a fur bearers permit to trap....it is just easier


john-n-fl    Posted 12-08-2001 at 10:40:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
anne you and your husband layed out good cash for your land mother nature made it but you own it now so use it the way that you want to and get rid of the beavers at any cost you did not pay for a beaver breeding groung good luck


KILL THEM!!!    Posted 12-01-2001 at 19:24:38       [Reply]  [No Email]
They sell traps at hardware stores....


LazyHorse    Posted 12-01-2001 at 18:44:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
You might try contacting your states dept. of natural resources for assistance or suggestions. PersonallyI would use some 330 connibear traps and be done with the beavers if they are that much nuisance.


Taylor Lambert    Posted 12-01-2001 at 18:06:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
My dad and brtother and me are operators we ve removed hundreds of dams. And one thing ive learnd from dad its to take the excavator after breaking the dam and scoopng out the brush is to pile mud on top of the debris. When it sets the beavers wont dig the brush out mostly if they cant find new brush close to it they move away. One family wouldnt let us haul the brush away ar pile mud on it instead they opted to dry and burn it within 2 days the brush was a new dam.
some beavers here kept building a dam near the intersection of the county road and the hiway and the state would dip it out with a backhoe now the beavers one upped them they build the damn in the middle of the box culvert under the hiway. Now you cant blast it cant rake it out with the hoe unless you drain it. so for now they won.


Cowboy Joe    Posted 12-01-2001 at 16:44:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
At first glance I thought you were referring to the score of the Oregon St. Univ. Beavers football game today.


IHank    Posted 12-01-2001 at 09:39:44       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Anne- I remember a thread here, seems like last spring, about beavers causing troubles for somebody.

I also remember years ago when the IA DOT did battle with beavers that dammed up a creek that runs under US Hwy 30 in Boone County. The DOT spent a pile of money to have the dam dynamited. Within a week it was re-built... Seems this battle went on 'till the DOT morons figgered out they were up against Mother Nature and were doomed to loose the battle.

Next they got the wildlife people to live trap the beavers and haul 'em to another creek far away. That seemed to work. But for how long I don't know and I lost track of the happenings.

An important thing to keep in mind that them beavers understand the complexities of the interactions of natural events and are grand master dam builders.

My suggestion is that you look for ways to put them beavers to working toward your interests, then get out of their way! Play your cards right and you might end up with a nice fishing pond and a nice natural watering hole for your horses.

Please, don't foul the pond with sewage and waste from your home. IHank


Franz    Posted 12-01-2001 at 11:27:57       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Here in the real upstate New York, we are finally seeing a return of the beavers who went missing 50 years ago because of pollution. The college eduficated people running the town can't seem to bring themselves to tell the yuppies who built palaces in the flood areas and spent tons of money on landscaping that flooding is a normal and natural thing, so the town sends in the backhoe to fight the beavers. So far, the score is beavers 99, Town 0.
The folks upstream from me and the farmer who owns the other bank of the creek are all crying to the town right now, about flooding. Me and the neighbor both told the town to go to He11, we won't let their backhoe across our property to rip the dam out. We did suggest the town ought to install a bypass pipe that would act as a spillway and control water level above the dam, we'd be willing to go along with that, as long as it maintained a decent water level for us to pump for irrigation. The town says they don't want to try that idea cause it ain't in their manual of how to deal with beavers. We pointed out the town also wasn't able to come up with a solution for a dry creek in the 2 years we had drought, and that they wouldn't open the siphone into the Erie canal for the farmers. Has anyone ever done a bypass pipe around a beaver dam to control water level? I figure beavers would quickly dam up a ditch, but wonder if they'd be able to figure out a pipe.


Nathan(GA)    Posted 12-01-2001 at 19:25:55       [Reply]  [No Email]
I saw a program on PBS or Discovery, etc. about beavers. They said beavers are drawn to the sound of running water. They put a tape recorder with a tape of running water on the bank. That beaver about went nuts trying to find the leak.



Anne in TN    Posted 12-01-2001 at 11:23:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
IHank,

I didn't mean we would be dumping our sewage into the pond, I meant we would be scooping the water out and carring it to the house to use to flush the toilets with. We have a septic system.

Anne


IHank    Posted 12-01-2001 at 13:03:10       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Anne- Thanks for helping me better understand the situation. That's a super idea you got, using the pond as "grey water" for flushing, scrubbing grunge, etc. In time, once the beavers work out the water level they want, your nearby ground water level will come up too. From there you could probably put in a shallow well that would be a dependable source of water for your homestead.

Like I say, scheme to get them beavers working toward your ends too and everybody will win big time. You got experts with God given knowledge of water supply related matters close by so work with 'em as best you can. Good luck, IHank


Salmoneye    Posted 12-01-2001 at 09:00:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dunno what the water will do to the horses, but 'beaver fever' is dangerous to humnans.
The 'fever' is caused by a bacteria from the beavers doo-doo in the water.

If it were me...those beavers would not be there if I didn't want them there...

;-)


REDNECKMATT    Posted 12-01-2001 at 18:08:12       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I think I had that (beaver feaver) once then I went and got married!!!


OW - open season?    Posted 12-01-2001 at 16:44:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
With 10,000 lakes up here already, we have to keep a lid on things like that or they'd take over the state. Right now our duck population has dropped 40% in the last 3 years - 25% last year alone - too many geese are competing for the same food. Always competition from somewhere ....
Stuff like this doesn't matter much to city people, except they couldn't get around on weekends and they'd have to pay ALL the taxes without us. :)


Isn't there a beaver-trapping season where you live? Even though the market is poor and there are very few active trappers left, our open season runs from the end of October til the middle of May. Like any skill, trappers come in mighty handy sometimes.



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