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Makin a livin
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Mark    Posted 01-22-2004 at 21:59:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do you think a family can make a living off of 15 acres of pepers
30 acres of pasture for raising Angus Beef
75 acres of Alfalfa Hay

P.s Are climate averges about 50-60 inches of rain
220-240 day growing season An average Summer high of 82 degrease and the median family income of 28,000 a year


the pink panther    Posted 01-23-2004 at 05:27:35       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i don't know about beef cows?it takes a lot of grass to keep any sort of cow/calf operation going. 30 acres would'nt be enough.
you might try raising bottle calves.
we don't have enough pasture for a beef herd so we raise bottle calves to sell for meat.we get top doolar for our steers that way.we can dry lot steers and make the most of our land and it looks like you have lots of hay.sell or trade the hay you don't use to a dairy for more calves.
split up your grond that you raise peppers on and raise a truck garden.with your rainfall and long growing season you should be able to do well at the farmers market and roadside stand.
feed costs can kill you.
can you raise your own grain on the 30 acres?
maybe you can trade hay for grain.
lots and lots of ways to make it work.all of them involve lots of hard work,and must be a family commitment!
we have'nt quite got there yet.a couple of more years to end the debt and we will be good.
as everyone else said debt free or it won't work.
the insurance issue will also be a big,big deal.we are insured at my wifes work,so she will probabley always work.
sometimes you will have to do things you really don't like to help make it,but it will be worth it to be on your own
.......PP


deadcarp    Posted 01-22-2004 at 22:41:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
willy pretty well answered your question but i'd like to add a general thought - if you want to move someplace, do it. i know it's kinda scary and risky but remember it's not gonna get cheaper in 5 years. as to how to make a living, get settled, find a starter job and get acquainted. find who's doing okay and pattern your living after them. most country folks have a sawmill or crops or pump gas to get by, then invariably they'll have sidelines going. maybe mowing roadsides, driving during harvest, plowing snow, hauling slabs, stuff like that. the more stable your basic job is, the better so direct your attentions toward the county or city or nursing home or something solid, that will let you treat the sidelines like hobbies. oh, and fish whenever you can. nobody saves money fishing so it's a big waste of everything but better than pubs so do it anyway - your kids will remember it. :)




Willy-N    Posted 01-22-2004 at 22:47:32       [Reply]  [No Email]
Your right I add a bunch of other things to my income ro make ends meet. After you put it all together it will work. The Cows add to us but not enought to pay the bills. If I could get that much rain and grow my hay that would bring even more into the total. Mark H.


Willy-N    Posted 01-22-2004 at 22:15:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
If you have no bills or morgage and you don't need to spend money on things other than food maybe. But having said that I don't think you can. Add up the value of the pepers including cost to planting them. Add up the cost to cut transport and sell the hay. Figure how many steers you can raise if you buy them to raise just for the meat or have the cows to make calves to raise for meat. That will be your biggest expence. The over head will kill you till they go to market. Then the price of steers better be up. We have to buy 30-40 ton of hay to winter our 15 head for making calves to sell for meat. We offset the calves by buying yearling steers to sell in the fall. It would be hard to do paying for insurance, car and truck payments, taxes and such. Break it down see what you need to live and pay bills with along with some money for unknown vet bills and ather problems that come up. I know our 15 head won't feed this place! Mark H.


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