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Ole Cuss - have a canine parvo questions
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ShepFL    Posted 12-09-2001 at 12:59:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Raise and sell American bulldogs from time to time. Gave my femal pick of the litter to a good friend about a month ago. Pup is about 4 mo. old. She now has parvo and is being treated. We went over last nite for dinner and found this out.

Questions -
1. How infectious is this disease?
We have disinfected our clothes with Lysol & bleach water. Stripped in the truck to prevent tracking anything onto our place.

1a. Does a dog have to physically eat feces to become infected?

2. Bleach disinfectant was 2 parts water, 1 part bleach. Is this adequate to treat yard, ground, kennels, etc?

3. Is this disease kin to feline distemper? Seems I remember reading this yrs. ago but unable to locate source. Friend has several sick cats & I told him it was probable source of parvo infection, beyond dogs eating infected feces. Needless to say he scoffed at me . . .

4. Always thought of this as a disease affecting young dogs. Any possibility of my male and brood stock getting infected?

Thanks in advance while I do some additonal research.
ShepFL


fonda williamson    Posted 07-15-2002 at 21:55:31       [Reply]  [Send Email]
This is not a comment, but a question. I have a 10 week old labrador that has come down with parvo. I took her to the vet, she was vomiting and diarrhea, no blood, she wouldn't eat or drink. The vet gave her iv medications and sent her home the next day, without any other medications. She still wouldn't eat or drink and was not vomiting anymore, but still had diarrhea. The next day I took her back to the vet and he kept her until that afternoon and just observed her all day. Again I took her home and my husband who is a former vet tech asked about at home meds, the vet said she should be fine. My husband asked for a bag of fluids to give her meds subQ. She still is not eating very well. She is now having diarrhea with blood. Is this normal and if so, how long will it take for her to feel better and eat and not have diarrhea with blood in it? Should I take her back to the vet?


Michelle    Posted 01-11-2004 at 17:58:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
By all means take your dog back to the vet! I got the antibiotics, electrolyte solution, the anti-diarrheal and meds for the vomting to treat my puppy at home Friday morning. Even after following the vets orders completely, we buried our sweet Lucki Saturday morning. This is an awful quick acting disease.


j_eaton    Posted 10-18-2003 at 16:56:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If it been two years and no signs of parvo then a sixth month old dog comes up with parvo where would it come from?


kim schurek    Posted 10-19-2003 at 18:16:50       [Reply]  [Send Email]
bring your dog back to vets for iv fluids till the Diahrrea stops....my precious daxie died last night cos she got all the treatment but not the iv fluids.


Thanks Y'all - (shepfl)    Posted 12-10-2001 at 12:27:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Looks as if I got some cleaning to do around here - I have no experience with this and it sounds pretty NASTY! I have passed along your info and the link to my buddy. Hopefully it will be something he will use, if not, I will extract female, quarantine her, pray like heck and get her relocated.

On another note, where don't goats get distemper? For yrs. we ran goats with our "open range" horses to keep distemper out of the herd. Never had one case of it that I can recall. My dad taught me this early on. Just curious.
Thanks in advance.
ShepFL



Maine    Posted 02-19-2003 at 20:04:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
My 8wk old AB has Parvo. So I know what you are going through, and my prays go out to the dog. Parvo is a killer virus, and has to be fought off by the dog. If your dogs has bloody fecal this is serious, and need to go to a Animal Hosiptal ASAP. If you don;t get the dog there she will probably die. Her intestines are being torn away, and infections are getting into her bloodstream. That is what kills the dog not Parvo itself. If you were to relate Parvo to a Human it would be like cathing the Flu. You die from the complication such a lung, kidneys, etc. Seek help fast if you can afford it, but at this point your dog might have to be hosiptalize or die.


Ole Cuss    Posted 12-10-2001 at 13:38:38       [Reply]  [No Email]

"Distemper" in horses means different things to different people. To some, it means "strangles", which is a specific streptococcal infection of the upper respiratory tract; to others, it means "equine flu", which is a herpesvirus infection of the respiratory tract, sometimes upper tract infection and sometimes pneumonia. Still others just use the term "distemper" to mean "a sick animal", and it's no more specific than that. I never heard of using goats to screen any sort of sickness from horses but it sounds interesting.


Ole Cuss    Posted 12-09-2001 at 14:21:06       [Reply]  [Send Email]

Sorry to hear about the parvovirus problem. Here's some answers:
1. Parvovirus is very contagious among dogs. Infectious particles can easily be carried around on shoes, clothing, water and food bowls, collars, blankets, etc. A dog doesn't have to have direct contact with a sick dog to become infected; anything contaminated with even a small quantity of viral particles can spread the disease, and the virus is typically shed in vomit and diarrhea. The viral particles are quite hardy and may survive in nature for up to three months after being expelled in vomit or diarrhea, a very nasty feature: for example, long after any traces of the diarrhea have disappeared in a spot of grass or sidewalk, the virus may still be alive and be unknowingly carried home on your shoes.
1a. The dog does not have to actually eat the feces to become infected. See above. 2. Bleach is the most effective disinfectant. Your solution is plenty strong enough (some sources recommend 1:30 dilution of bleach:water, but I myself trust 1:10). Disinfect anything contacted by the sick dog (feed and water bowls, blankets, collars, toys, all kennel surfaces, even dirt around dog houses or anywhere in yard or house contaminated by vomit and diarrhea). Discard anything you can afford to. Make sure your other dogs are up-to-date on their parvovirus shots: nonvaccinated individuals can be vaccinated now, but it will be a race between the onset of effective immunity (takes a week after the shot is given before there are sufficient antibodies to confer protection) and onset of disease if exposed. Such susceptible animals may or may not get sick, but at least the vaccine gives them a chance. Vaccines (for parvo or anything else) don't always work, and some vaccines strains are stronger or longer lasting; it is always possible for a vaccinated animal to come down with the illness anyway. (Vaccine failures are a whole other textbook tale). 3. "Parvovirus" is a family of viruses affecting many species, including man. They are species-specific in their ability to cause disease--canine parvovirus will sicken only dogs, and feline parvovirus, which causes cat distemper, will sicken only cats. As members of the same family, their viral structures are similar, so that the cat parvovirus(distemper) vaccine can give a dog limited, short immunity against infection with the canine parvovirus. When canine parvo first broke out in the late 70's, all we had for defense was to vaccinate dogs with cat distemper vaccines. However, there have since been developed very good specific canine origin parvovirus vaccines that protect dogs stronger and longer, so using the cat distemper vaccine as described is no longer advocated. By the way, for anyone who is wondering, dog distemper is caused by a paramyxovirus, and is completely different from cat distemper.
4. Any dog, regardless of age, may become infected. Young dogs are more susceptible because their immune systems have had less time to be exposed to infectious agents and gain immunity; also, many young dogs have not received a full course of puppy booster shots. A puppy's immune system may be blocked from responding to vaccination by antibodies received from its mother; this can extend all the way up to 8-12 weeks of age, and you can't tell just by looking which puppy's immune system is responsive and which is not; this is why we recommend a booster series, so if the early shot(s) were blocked, then the chance is good that the later shots will finally take hold. There's many vaccine protocols but I feel that a pup should receive a multivalent shot (distemper, hepatitis/adenovirus, leptospirosis, parainfluenza, and parvovirus) at 7-8 weeks, 11-12 weeks, and 16 weeks, with rabies vaccine also given at 16 weeks. Some breeders and vets start vaccinating as early as 4 weeks of age; some give boosters every 2 weeks. Sorry this has been so wordy but it's a complex and difficult disease issue and I want to give you as complete an understanding as possible.


Karen    Posted 02-02-2003 at 17:56:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We found a stray dog last year who became very ill with parvo and was put to sleep. She was inside my home and vomited on my kitchen floor in mid June. I didn't know to clean with bleach. But have mopped my floor a few times since with regular cleaner. We now have a new puppy and I was wondering if the virus is still alive in my house? It is now February 2. We've had the pup for about about 5 days now. Please hurry with an answer... i don't want anything to happen to this little guy!! Thanks. Karen


LazyHorse    Posted 12-09-2001 at 13:28:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey Shep heres a link I copied from the web


Parvo is a killer    Posted 02-19-2003 at 20:12:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
this pup could catch Parvo. It can last up to 1yr. The only way to kill it outside of the pup is to bleach the whole area. I would take the dog out of the house until she has all 3 sets of vaccination. She might catch Parvo in the house if you haven't use bleach in all area the other dog stayed in


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