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Just started hobby farming need some advice!!!
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Butch    Posted 12-10-2001 at 12:29:35       [Reply]  [No Email]
just started hobby famring been waiting for a while for this. I bought my grandfather old farm the place had been abondon for years i couldnt save the house so i had to push it down i built a new very simple one bedroom house for my wife and I i was able to patch up the barn and the old garage and the old corn crib took a lot of work but i saved it too. its been a on going project for a year and a half now every night it devoted to it and in the past year ive put up a small machine shed and a small hog house and i think im gonna call her good. we own 5 cows has of now 1 bull 4 horses 10 hogs 8 chickens 4 ducks 2 dogs and 3 cats its a regular little hobby farm a perfect little place for me and my wife to just take it easy and have fun. well the place is on 50 acres but 5 is taken up by the homestead there is a small 5 acre hay field and the rest is 40 acres tillable for whatever. the first tractor i bought is a 1953 oliver 77 it is a narrow front and i have a loader on it a very handy tractor in the shed i have a 60 john deere year unknow no id tag with a mounted 227 picker also i have a 1936 A john deere my grandpa bought new. i plan to start famring the 40 acres has of this spring. i want to leave the 227 mounted on the 60 year round and the loader on the oliver and use the A for field work but i would like to have another tractor in the operation. I thought about another A or perhaps a B john deere but everyone has been telling me i should get an old farmall ive been told a M or an H but i would like something older ive been looking into F-20 farmalls. How much does a good running F-20 go for?? my A can pull 2-14s in the ground here can the F-20 do this?? are parts around for them?? i just need some options on tractors. and some advice and opinions on the F-20 thanks alot guys


Levon Haigh    Posted 11-12-2002 at 10:08:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Use what you have and save some money to get bigger and better machinery to make farming easier.


John    Posted 12-17-2001 at 18:31:17       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We are doing the same thing, We bought an old farm,and saved the house and fixing up the buildings, We have 25 chickens, 3 dogs and 4 cats, 4 cows, 1 bull, 5 steers, and 3 pigs. We raise our own meat, eggs, and soon we are going to buy goats for milking. We have 1937 JohnDeere A, for plainting, culivating, bailing, manure hauling,ect. Then we have a 1936 JohnDeere D, for heavy work, like working down the plowed ground,or fall plowing,or the spring work. I think the D works good with the A in my experience. I hope you the best of luck with your farm.

John


magpie    Posted 12-15-2001 at 13:49:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
You might want to look at a little JD 420U or similar their a real nice little tractor for all around use, only about 24 horse or so, but should be fine for 50 acre farm. I just recently learned how to make my 420 quit fouling plugs, so far so good. Congratulations on wanting to use old iron, once you get the problems out their are far superior to new junk. Myself I'm not keen on 3PH, prefer wheeled impliments. Also I think I would put that bull in the freezer and use AI, but again that's my opinion. Sounds like a you have a nice place, and your off to a great start.


Lloyd from Michigan U.S.A.    Posted 12-14-2001 at 15:27:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Butch first of all with 4 horses you don't need a tractor. Get rid of the horses one horse will eat more than one full grown cow. Horses cost too unless you are going to use them to make money. If you have Horses you probably should be in the wagon ride business. Next you have way to many
Tractors one good running tractor will work 4 X your 40 acres. As far as corn pickers go get a New Idea with a toung Look Out All Corn Pickers are very Dangerous to be around Many farmer has lost a hand or a arm in one of those things. I recomend a good 45+ hp. tractor with a three point hitch. AND SELL YOUR OLD ANTIQUES TRACTORS TO A TRACTOR COLECTOR. And God Bless You. And I hope you have one understanding wife. When you are both on food stamps and welfair. Buddy farming is a way of life and one dam poor way to make a living. Now if your Retired on a Big Three
AUTO CO. PENSION YOU STAND A CHANCE OF MAKING IT.
Again good luck my friend Lloyd From the Michigan Thumb.


Butch    Posted 12-16-2001 at 16:04:34       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well cant really get rid of the horses im kind of into roping with them and the wife just wouldnt like it....im near the age to retire and i own a very busy painting business here....it was grandpas farm so i just gotta do it and its something to do in my old days yeah i remember the old pickers VERY DANGEROUS but i just like to play with them old things...sorry cant get rid of them horses thou gotta keep them....i grew up around farms but never with these old time tractors i was more into the 5020s and 4020s and stuff but thanks for your help


Lloyd from Michigan U.S.A.    Posted 12-16-2001 at 21:06:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Butch
The way it looks to me. You must just want a tax
write off. I'am an engineer, not that I wanted to be one but it payed well. So stuck with it to get a nice retirment. I do know a little bit about farming. It is a tuff way to get a tax write of.
I started out on a farm and was lucky enough to still have it. I do get some tax breaks but some times I wonder if it is worth all the grief. And I managed to increase my land holdings. I live in a small town and my farms are 30 and 35 miles from where I live. I do restore old equipment and
old tractors but just for a hobby and this hobby
will pay for it self. I know better than to start with a real basket case. I have seen people put thousands in piece of junk and never be able to recover the cost. I don't care who you are. Every body likes to make a small profit, and every one should at least break even on what they do. They pay old cogers $5.25 per hr. in our local fast food joints just to do a little janitor work. So have fun on your hobby farm and good luck to you it's been nice to net chat with you. Lloyd from Michigan Thumb.


Larry    Posted 12-11-2001 at 21:37:29       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I hobby farm too,but on a smaller scale. I'll post my home page so you can see what I have.BTW,I use J.I.Case tractors on my place.


Clemantine    Posted 12-14-2001 at 17:49:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Great Home page, Larry! Loved it!

Clem


CJC    Posted 12-11-2001 at 18:58:47       [Reply]  [No Email]
One reason that a fella would buy an M or H around here is that they are much less than a Deere or Ford. An H would be very good for you, Hydro remotes to run anything you can think of hooking up to pull, etc. Usually have a good belt pulley system too if you want to use that...the bad thing about the Fords is that you MUST have the PTO engaged to raised equipment on the 3 point, which is dangerous... and there isn't an internal overriding clutch, ie You can push yourself through a fence when bush hogging. They will pull like crazy, though.

My buddy has a 2n 9n and an 8n that has 3 ranges...he likes them all but really likes my IH Super A for discing ( it has a modified 3 point on the back ). The Fords will go for a better price, a TO20 or 30 Fergusen is basically the same as the Ford, a good soild Continetal 4 Cylinder gas engine is pretty hard to beat.

When we lived in Georgia I had a IH 424 that could not be killed, it was much newer than anything you have mentioned and that power steering got pretty friendly after bush hogging all day.But the tractor was very affordable. I now use a IH 284 with a loader that pulls okay, kinda puny...
Parts are available for almost all the tractors, I got parts for a JD B, Massey 333, and all the Fords from a NAPA store. My IH's, too.

If you get one kind of tractor, say narrow front, you may end up with a need for a wide front..like on the hills.

I wouldn't worry about live PTO or clutch. Watch the ones that are all painted, but you can see the dents under the skin, they've been painted to move. Check out www.tractortips.com you'll find alot of info regarding horsepower, years made, etc...

Good luck with your new home, very nice, I bet your Granpda is smiling now........


Alvin-Va    Posted 12-11-2001 at 09:19:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Butch,don't know where you are located,so what I say here may vary according to your area.
I notice lots of similiar posts and see mistakes happen around me with people moving'out to the country'.Hope this helps.
First,lets forget equiptment and decide what you are going to raise and how to allocate the available acres.This is to help in selecting the equiptment
Homestead 5 acres.
Livestock,6 head of cattle,hopefully 11 when the calves come.Horses,4.Total 15.Allocate 20 acres for pasture,minimum.
You will probably need some good hay for the horses,plan on 5 acres of orchard grass,etc.
Down to 20 acres to work with,hay for cattle,15 acres.
You mentioned the corn picker on the JD,guess you plan on planting corn,there goes the last 5 acres.
Good plan,should work,will around here.
Now for some equiptment questions.Are you going to harvest your own hay or have it custom harvested?If you plan to do it yourself,you need to plan on a mower,rake and baler.Don't forget,after plowing,gotta plant and cultivate that corn.
Leaving the corn picker on the JD 60 will tie up the tractor you need most.I know,taking the picker off is a real b*tch,your call there.However,the 60 would make a good all-round tractor for haying,planting and cultivating.
The tractor you need?If you don't want to remove the picker,35-50 HP,live PTO and hyd, whatever color that has a nearby dealer.I'm not familiar with the Oliver,if it has live PTO and hyd.it will work here.Just get a good handling,all purpose tractor.Keep collecting the old ones,they are fun to play with and can still get a lot of work done.Remember,a man can't have too many tractors or guns.Wish I had the 36 A,learned to drive on one of those.
This is kinda long winded,hope it helps you and others,just wanted to make you think about future needs.



buck    Posted 12-10-2001 at 21:51:10       [Reply]  [No Email]

sounds like you got a right nice farm going there and it is obvious that you don't mind a little work. Me well I just planted the whole place in trees . can't comment on the tractors except any of them is good if they are working. Do have a couple of questions though. ain't that bull going to need a little more work and are them horses broke to harness? Have a good time I do admire you.


IHank    Posted 12-10-2001 at 19:01:43       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Butch- It helps to have a big pile of money backing it all up. Or, have a real good paying town job.

Equipment diversity is OK and neat if you're just gonna paint it pretty and look at it. Actually using that stuff day to day might become a non-stop headache and an endless learning curve.

The John Deere, or Farmall M, or the N series Ford, are each good choices. Suggest pick one and go with it. Congratulations on what sounds like a super good rural home! IHank


geo in MI    Posted 12-10-2001 at 16:27:22       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I'm kinda partial to Fords, myself. A good N-series Ford should be able to pull a 2-14 plow, plus it has the three point hitch, which makes it more versatile. You can get a post hole auger, a back blade, a carryall box, a bush hog, a beam hook and lift, etc, etc. Lotsa good toys to make it more useful around the farm. Parts are still plentiful from New Holland and others on the board as well, plus the N board is the most active one for advice and help. Just my own opinion.


Les...fortunate    Posted 12-10-2001 at 14:27:08       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I see F14 beat me to the punch. I was going to suggest you post your question on the tractor talk board. Most of them guys will be drooling all over themselves thinking you got all that old iron and looking for more. Good for you.
Where are you located?


F14    Posted 12-10-2001 at 14:11:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
You should be able to find a good F20 for under $1000. I hope you're planning on taking your time with everything, those old girls are slower than death. They'll haul anything a JD A will haul.

Have you been to Yesterdays Tractors yet? It's a companion board to this one, hosted by the same folks, and a goldmine of information. Link is to the Farmall board, there are others for all major brands.


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