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Lectric fence
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Pitch    Posted 02-05-2004 at 20:14:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I was getting set to put an electric fence up tomorrow. I have never done one before and the instructions say to use "10 to 14 ga wire insulated to 20,000 volts" for the lead, jumper and ground. It specifically says not to use regular wire as it is only good to 600 volts. What is this super insulated wire what does it look like and where do I get it?


Fern(Mi)    Posted 02-06-2004 at 01:06:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
On elec fences. Don't make a monumental project out of it. We're running 17ga steel wire all all-a-riound/all-over the places. Have a bit of 14ga. steel to hold some horses, planning on some High-tensil steel for the parimeters futures.
If you've all ready have an established fence, you may only need 17ga. It's inexpencive and get the job done for us. It's easy to handle. I re-wind about five miles every spring before picking up wind-fall, fertilizing, and first-cutting all the pastures.
Most of our ghaargers are indoors: shed, barn, chickenhouse, and one in a box on a fence post with a clear plastic window one the front so's I can see its blinking lights condition. One-day all our fence chargers will be set up this way.
We've used ceranic tubes & surplus black water pipe for passing the most commonly used 17ga, steel wire through the walls. Grounding these systems We use 2/prefferably/3 12' ground rods for each charger.
NOTICE!! Don't ever connect more than one use to any ground rod. This is the most common cause for stray voltage around/about a farm. We've got so many ground rods in some areas it almost makes me dizzy just thinking about them. One for phone. One for each eletrical service panel (to elliminate feedback). One for the TV antenna at the house. And of-course the clusters of rods for the fence chargers. No elc-fence is any better than the ground it's hooked to.
Best locations for ground rods are under your buildings eves; where they and the earth they're drive-in may get the most generious amounts of circut completing rain-water for the grounds' working efficiency. The nest best place (or handiest) for the gr-rods are under the fence, coming handy for the an original old (or new) woven fence's connection.
Now, if this hasn't helped ya. I at least hope it has explained real confusion. Just don't make a big job out of it.
AND, if you ain't got it not working just right, your not trying hard enough. Have fun,
Fernan


Opps, somethin' more    Posted 02-06-2004 at 01:11:49       [Reply]  [No Email]
Been using 1/2"x12">14" galv-pipe for fence (& communications) ground for years. We save the fance copper coated rods foe elc-service (for codes).


Willy-N    Posted 02-05-2004 at 20:45:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have put in a few electric fences before in my time and have never used 20,000 volt rated wire! My insulated wire I use to get to the fence is regular 600 volt electrical wire. Not the cheap stuff the sell for cars in the Auto Stores. I still put it on insulators but I have never been shocked off it. I have used romex too with out a problem and ran both leads inside the same run. I have also use pvc to enclose the wire for protection of it. You can buy Copper Core Spark plug wire in a coil if you want, it is good for over 50,000 volts and use that too. Mark H.


rhudson    Posted 02-05-2004 at 20:40:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Hello, I don't see why you would need insulated wire for the ground line. most people mount the fence charger so that the lead wire to the fence is insulated with either plastic or ceramic insulators. insulating tube is usually used to jump around gates (run underground). companies that sell high tensile fenceing supplies will have the tubing. its about $10 for 30 ft. if i remember correctly. make sure to bend the tube and wire down at each end so rain water does not run down into the tube. if you have a good fence charger and good fence you could expect voltages around 3000 to 6000. What are you going to use for a ground rod? what are you fencing in?



Pitch    Posted 02-05-2004 at 21:22:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am actually doing my back yard. Someone around here has a big rottie lookin thing that runs loose and he has been coming over to my place and has enticed my two to go over the fence acouple of times so I am going to run a double wire inside and outside my fence to keep theirs out and mine in.


Willy-N    Posted 02-05-2004 at 20:50:01       [Reply]  [No Email]
I bolt a plastic 5 gal pail upside down on the fence post to put my chargee in to protect it when I need to mount it near the fence. It keeps the weather off the charger and I can keep the conections clean on it. I tape up the cord/plug conection for water proofing also. Mark H.


Pitch    Posted 02-05-2004 at 21:10:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a couple of 8' copper clad ground rods for the ground and I have some #6 braided copper that I was planning on using for the jumpers and grond lead. I was going to use #12 wire for the power lead. Thought I was all set till I read the instructions.


Willy-N    Posted 02-05-2004 at 22:12:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Those will make great ground rods. As far as the ground wire to the rods the braided #6 will also work great. It only needs to be insulated if it is where you might touch it and the wire gets broke in haft and you get between the wire and ground then you could get shocked but it is going to ground anyway so I would not worry to much about it. You could still get shocked on the ground rods bare ends even with insulated wire along with the conection point at the charger. They are concerned about the wire getting broken off the ground rod and then seeking a new ground path to ground. The potentil for shock is realy between the two wires. You could get shocked if the hot(+)wire is grounded out and your ground wire is not, than you could complete the circtuit between them by being grounded and touching the wire that is not grounded. Mark H.


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