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This burns me up.. Veterans that claim to be Hero'
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LesWV    Posted 02-08-2004 at 17:18:19       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Being a Veteran myself.
My thoughts of what a hero is or should be may differ from others. One of my biggest nonhero heros is Jessica Lynch. Sure she is from Palestine, W.Va (just up the road).But I felt like puking everytime that I saw her on TV or heard a new anchor reffering to her as a hero. She could not function as a basic soldier under fire. Pissed her pants from fear, passed out and did not even fire a shot. While others around her died trying to protect their fellow soldiers. Taken as a POW and later rescued. Where along the line did she earn the title Hero? When the truth started coming out after her signing a book and movie deal worth over a million dollars. I can see that she has decided to fade away. For good I hope.

Here is a great tribute to Specialist James Kiehl, age 22, from Comfort, Texas, was killed, along with six other soldiers at the same place and the same day that Jessica Lynch was taken prisoner.

http://members.accessus.net/~tmcdonld/lighthse/Texas.htm

Please take the time to vist the site and ask yourself. Who would you cast your vote for as Hero?

This John Kerry lying to the American people proclaiming to be a Viet Nam hero and attempting to use his Viet Nam service as his ticket to the White house.


Before everyone jumps.
I want you to know that I could care less who is running for president or any other office.
It just burns me up to hear someone proclaim to being a hero when they are so Anti American.

Below is a story of how John Kerry became a Viet Nam hero and more on his service to America during the 70's.




Are Firefighters....    Posted 02-09-2004 at 11:05:30       [Reply]  [No Email]
heros? If I would go into a burning building to fight a fire and/or to save a life and get killed doing so, does that make me a hero? Or am I just doing the job that "I chose" to do?



Fawteen    Posted 02-09-2004 at 15:25:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm a firefighter. I chose to do the job. Haven't been called upon to rescue anyone yet, but if/when I am, I'll do my job.

Doing your job does NOT make you a hero.

IMHO, most Honest-to-God Heros have never publicized their deeds. And they damn sure never capitalized on them for political or financial gain.

And there has never been, and never WILL be ANYONE who can claim "Hero" status from sports. Every time I hear the words "Sports" and "Hero" in the same sentence, it makes me want to puke.


Agree...    Posted 02-09-2004 at 16:35:18       [Reply]  [No Email]
with you completely. You confirmed my point.

RY


Okie-Dokie    Posted 02-09-2004 at 06:28:15       [Reply]  [No Email]
If being an Hon. Veteran qualifies me to reply, I guess I will jump right in. In the girls's defence, it wasn't her that professed to being a hero. In fact she was the only one that was playing it down. If she had not have had the courage to set the record straight, every one, including myself and you, would have bought into the pack of lies that the Bush Machine made up concerning the whole incident. So, who is the hero? The ones who concocted the story, or the lady that had the back bone to tell the truth? I think that possibly the real hero would be the Doctor that informed our Army about where she was, at great risk to himself and his family. And as for who to vote for, I would suggest "None of the above" would be the only choice this time. Thanks


Alias    Posted 02-09-2004 at 05:45:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hero, smearo, it's all a bunch of hype. What's important is whether or not Kerry is a good man for the job. Can he be depended on to do a good job if he were President? I don't think so. Why?
Well, a good man is steadfast and unchanging in his ideals. Not just someone who sways which ever way the wind blows. And John Kerry sways only to fit his own personal adgenda. Now, in case any of you has forgotten, that money making vietnam thing was brought to you under the auspices of the Democrate Party. Co-sponsored by Kerry's role model JFK, (who I think was assinated because he wanted to pull out), and escallated under LBJ.

So, for what it's worth, my advise is to forget Kerry. The way that man sways I'm afraid he'll sway right over to some radical religious group and declare war on the US. I mean, Hey, isn't that sort of what he did before when he protested?


donna in w.v    Posted 02-09-2004 at 05:07:11       [Reply]  [Send Email]
grew up in massachuttes and never heard any of this Thanks for the info. hubby was a navy seal and did 20 years from korea to nam and just won't talk about it i met him after he retired and never knew he got medals till i went with him to the vet hospital and had all his records in an envelope and was looking thru while i was waiting when i asked him he said"just did what needed to be done, nothing special" got a son and 2 nephews all navy cuz they admire my husband even tho he's not a blood relative.


Pitch    Posted 02-09-2004 at 02:41:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
I am no great Kerry fan (I would much rather see Clark ) But I have never heard Kerry himself claim to be a hero or anything other than a Vet. The 3 Purples and your out is not some obscure little known thing was pretty much standard practice. Probably some of you combat vets will say that I have no right to enter in any veterans opinion. I am a vet altho I was too young for Viet Nam, ('72-'76 USMC)I still served.
Are your thoughts and actions the same today at 50 or 60 as they were at 23 or 25? If you say yes you are lying. I can't condem a man for something he did 30 years ago. (exerscizing his first amendment right of free speech)
Anybody but Bush in '94.


Les    Posted 02-09-2004 at 04:48:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
I seem to remember back in the '60s when it was "Anybody but Johnson" and again in the '90s when it was "Anybody but Clinton". I don't recall exactly but can you tell me whether "Anybody" beat either of those two guys?


Steve from Tn    Posted 02-09-2004 at 04:28:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
"Are your thoughts and actions the same today at 50 or 60 as they were at 23 or 25? If you say yes you are lying. I can't condem a man for something he did 30 years ago. (exerscizing his first amendment right of free speech"

I agree to that statement. I have certainly changed since being 20. Why do the noisy liberals dig up things that President Bush did 30 years ago but are willing to overlook stupid stuff their darling-of-the-moment did in that same time frame?


Les    Posted 02-09-2004 at 03:46:41       [Reply]  [No Email]
My thoughts about people like John Effing Kerry are still the same as they were 30+ years ago. Maggots.


Okie    Posted 02-09-2004 at 07:29:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
My sentiments exactly, Les. Seems the older I get the more I believe they are ALL skunks. If their lips are moving, they are lying. I don't like one politition any less than another. I dislike & mistrust them all about the same. Politics and Polititions are what got this country in the mess it is in now. I think we should just send all of them to jail and start over, and this time follow the guidelines set down by the founding fathers.


Ron,Ar    Posted 02-08-2004 at 19:10:05       [Reply]  [No Email]
There are still heroes out there, I hope every one of them gets recognized somewhere if only by their creator. Some folks may say I'm bitter but I still think this country did a generation of servicemen and their heroes wrong 30 years ago. I wish all the best for all our service men and women and hope they all have a long healthy life. I got less and less use for politicians who use their service time as a stepping stone.


steve19438    Posted 02-09-2004 at 05:05:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
a voice of reason among the saber rattler's.! i could not agree more.


LesWV    Posted 02-08-2004 at 20:18:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ron
You are right. They are out their in all shapes, sizes and not just in the military.
We Have a local TV station (WSAZ TV 3)that has a weekly program called "Home Town Heros". They award a plaque and air a story of someone who was moninated by the people of the community during the week.

Few of the most recent winners.

A dog that woke a family and saved them from a burning house.

A 9 year old girl that weight just 65 lbs that jumped into water over her head and pulled her 280 lb Uncle that could not swim from the river. She just wanted to save her uncle because he was the only one in her family that took her fishing.

29 Office workers that donated their vacation and overtime hours to a coworker that was battling cancer.

A 77 year old lady who walked 1/4 mile twice a day to check on and make sure that her three Eldery neighbors were ok that lived on the same road as she.




JohnD    Posted 02-08-2004 at 18:56:09       [Reply]  [No Email]

Here's another self made war vet


walt    Posted 02-08-2004 at 18:55:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, I don't blame Jessica Lynch. She was a propaganda toy by the PC police, both in and out of the military. I retired 4yrs ago, and saw where it was heading. Too many commanders would climb over anyone to get a star. The good leaders got disillusioned early in their career and left.


Les...(the other one)    Posted 02-08-2004 at 18:21:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Thank you for posting that link, Les. The man is a dirt ball and all that information just reinforces what I already believed.


True definition.....    Posted 02-08-2004 at 17:56:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
of a Hero: The ones who died while in service to the Country. Nuff said.

Clipper USN Ret.


Les    Posted 02-09-2004 at 04:32:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not according to George S. Patton Jr. He said you should be making the other b*stard die for his country.


~Lenore    Posted 02-08-2004 at 18:05:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
Do you think the media will ask Kerry about those communist connections? Of course not!!

Some heros came back, they just hang out in the VA hospital now. The dead are not the only heros in my estimation. I appreciate each and every one of them that courageously served in combat.


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