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Bread for cattle
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Jeff    Posted 01-31-2001 at 16:46:39       [Reply]  [Send Email]
can anyone tell me if there is any value to giving cattle old bread.Ihave been giving my cows old bread from bakery thrift stores. they get about 20lb. aday between 7 of them. They seem to be doing real good but i wonder if its just filling ther bellies or are they getting sothing out of it.


Bread feeder    Posted 07-05-2006 at 05:48:23       [Reply]  [Send Email]
uncle feeding bread to his cows. one came up dead and figured because of a storm it was lightning. Next day four more dead with no lightning. Vet that said it was ok has now says it might be the bread. Another vet says feeding bread? THAT WAS STUPID!!! I think before I feed cows bread I'd do more research.


Mudcat49    Posted 02-02-2001 at 18:07:28       [Reply]  [No Email]
Near me there is a man and his wife who own a small pasture and have a few head of cows. They are from Czechosolvakia. He was feeding bread to his cows one day and I was there. He told me,"Look at me feeding this bread to my cows, in my old country people would fight to get this bread for humans!"


Okie-Dokie    Posted 02-02-2001 at 06:44:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
We fed out a group of pigs last summer on "bakery Feed". They sure looked good in the sale ring. The net return was pretty impressive too. We are hoping to do this again after last frost in the spring, although feeder pigs are too high right now to make this feasable.


Larry    Posted 02-01-2001 at 07:11:51       [Reply]  [Send Email]

I looked in one of my hog books,and it give's bakery waste as having 75-80% of the value of shelled yellow-dent corn(no.2). It also says that it sometimes causes constipation. As long as it isn't moldy,I don't see anything wrong with feeding it. I used to feed it to my sows,when I could get it. It used to be fun watching them eat the stuff. Especialy the cream filed rolls.I wouldn't even take it out of the package,they would eat plastic wrap and all.


Spencer Greely    Posted 02-01-2001 at 06:15:52       [Reply]  [No Email]
I can't see why not, as long as there isn't
any mould on it. Mouldy hay also can bring on
diseases.
If they feed cow parts to them, bread can't
do any harm.

Spence.


magpie    Posted 01-31-2001 at 18:58:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Id like to know too, hope somebody answers you.


hogman    Posted 02-01-2001 at 10:25:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
with hogs it depends on what kind of meat You want,"garbage in-garbage out". When I raised hogs the owner of the local packing plant came to me for his own hog meat. I would have pistol whipped anyone as threw a hunk of bread in one of my pens!!!!!
as to cows ,dairy calves seem to do ok on such stuff,it is mostly grain and would I guess class with mids which make lousey hog feed.I tried mixing mids when grain was so high a few years back. The more mids i added the worse things got so went back to what a hog should eat.Ground Corn and soy bean meal with a good mineral supliment...
Check with Your extension office,They would put You in touch with Your State livestock nutritionist .
Should be no charge for this service...My 2 cts worth


Burrhead    Posted 02-01-2001 at 21:27:46       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yeah and in all honesty about all the extention man can tell you is what brand of feed to buy and how to sanitize your canning jars.

I went thru them extension fellers in our area years ago, and he's still as dumb as he was when he landed here. When I checked the 3 counties around me they got the same problems.

If I was gonna pistol whip somebody it would be a extension agent, or the feller that put him in touch with me.


IHank    Posted 02-01-2001 at 22:00:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dr. Burrhead- Please. "be cool fool", an old VN saying...

We all gotta keep in mind that the agggie extension people, that your A&M and my ISU, and the others, all are fed the same line of bravo sierra information to pass along to rural people.

Not shure if/how to respond to it. This forum seems to work real good.

Temp is below zero here right now and I'm still keeping my grin, IHank


Burrhead    Posted 02-02-2001 at 04:29:56       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hello Hank.

I must have come out bassackwards as usual. I did'nt mean to be cranky or smart alec at all anyone I would ask any one offended to please forgive my ignorance.

I did'nt mean any harm I just wanted to say that if you depend on the extention man for advice then you may as well go on to something else.

I get involved with them years ago over some cattle that kept kept getting scours on me here.

I had done and asked everybody even the Aggies what was wrong. I had vets check their foo-foo and 1 even sent off a blood test to Ames, Ia to the lab for a 2nd opinion on some sort of disease they had picked up in the blood test.

It looked like I was gonna loose a small herd of about 35 pairs.

When I would'nt have the cattle put down without a tussle and asked for my 3rd blood work test it came back negative from La. Texas checked again and it was negative that time. They sent another to Ames and it came back neg on the 2nd one from there.

When and Aggie teaching vet finally got involved I was over feeding on some homemade ground sunflower meal I was mixing my self. It turned out to be about 41% protein when they checked it out.

The extention info I had gotten originally was wrong because before I went to blending my own I had checked and he said the meal would be about 18-20% protein.

The digestion problems were because I was burning their stomachs with the high powered feed and minerals mix. When I cut down the amount of feed to what they could convert the problem went away.


IHank    Posted 02-02-2001 at 13:51:42       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Dr. Burrhead- Thank you for the informative post. I'm sure that your comments about excessively high protein will be valuable info. for somebody.

Do you 'spose that my usual breakfast of a sausage pattie and a fried egg on a slice of American cheese might have something to do with me having "scours" later in the day?

Several years ago my VA doc commented about my cholesterol test looking much better. I said nothing about my diet... Before that I was into toast with p-nut butter and jelly, along with grapefruit juice and coffee for breakfast-- 'Ya know, the "healthy stuff"... It was after I got into sausage & egg & cheese slice, washed down with an AB Natural Light for breakfast, that my blood work gave better reports.

Humm... Gotta work on this idea some more. Thanks and a grin to 'yall, IHank


Burrhead    Posted 01-31-2001 at 20:33:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
I don't know the particular protein content of the bread but I do know that the bread is more feed efficient than the 10% protein store bought stock feed.

Sunbeam sells me 10 trays with 6 to 8 loaves on each for $5 at their store. When the ground is dry that's all I use is bread, but it all melts away before they can eat it in the rainey weather.

Cows and horses do pretty good on it and goats do really good. It won't hurt any of the animals as long as you don't get carried away and founder them.


Happy hogs    Posted 01-31-2001 at 22:06:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Gents- Mebbie even better than bread is the rejects from confection plants. We got an Archway cookie factory nearby and their product quality standards are pretty strict. Last I knew their rejects and returned mdse. go to local area hog raisers. Once in a while tales of this make the local news and they are always positive, in that the animals do well with the cookies as a part of their overall diet. It's mostly carbohydrate, with some fat content and a little bit of fruit and nuts and ??? in there.

Yes, my son works there and they make some real "good stuff". IHank


Burrhead--Amen Bro    Posted 02-01-2001 at 21:34:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
The only problem I can see with your idea Hank is that I like the Archway cookies about as much as that hog does.

The animal might get shorted a little if I was feeding it. :^)

You're right on the contents I ran a TDN and protein check on this stuff today and the breads are very high in nutrients because of the starches and carbohydrates. They have a good ash count too.


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