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About Northerners..
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Aprille    Posted 02-14-2004 at 10:56:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Happy Valentine's Day all..I was looking thru some of the posts and came across somethin' I just HAD to comment on..it had to do with how northerners are SO PC..Are u kidding..I have lived here my WHOLE life..Massachusetts AND New Hampshire..and these people are So rude and SO ignorant THEY won't even admit it!! I am an EXTREMELY happy-go-lucky person..because of the fact that I smile all the time at EVERYONE for NO APPARENT REASON I have been accused of being stupid,(SOOO NOT)flirtatious(like that's a BAD thing..)or a bubble head(no comment!) My son was always treated like crap in school because he was so smiley..Being happy to the extreme makes people up North very nervous..I haven't found that visiting the south..From Georgia to N.Carolina into Florida..the people and places seem to reach out and welcome you in..I have never been to Alabama..Someday perhaps..Northerners are a heartless lot..Remember when they use to say if u fell down in NY no one would help you up?? That is the feeling I tend to have here..and God FORBID you might SMILE at a stranger!! AAAAHHH!!!!!


magpie    Posted 02-14-2004 at 20:49:25       [Reply]  [No Email]
I think you will find good and bad everywhere, but more rural people seem to be more outgoing. Here is a story about what happened to me in mexico NY. I think in general people there are freindly. Except for two of them. When I was there I needed some gas, almost empty. So I pulled up to a gas pump (only one in town I suppose I dont know) two cars at the pumps. One was being filled by an old geezer. I waited behind for my turn, and waited and waited, I could see them visiting at the till. I had Ontario plates (rental car). I had lots of time so I just sat, the other car didn't go anywhere. I looked at my watch I figured I would wait 10 minutes. When the time was up I want in and asked the attendent where I could go to get some gas today. She said I could fill up right here, but was obviously being snotty, then she carries right on talking to the old fart as if I wasn't even there. So I just gave up and left went back to the main highway and prayed we would make it to the next gas station, and we did.
I wonder what I did to be treated like that? Was it because I am Canadian? Or was it just because I was an outsider? I spend a lot of money in the U.S.A. every year and am usually treated right. Mexico NY wont be getting any more visits from me thats for sure.


Anti-DC    Posted 03-20-2004 at 12:42:04       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hi there, I am not going to stereotype an entire section of the country, but I will say that I hated the 15 months that I lived in the metro Washington DC area. I lived in Northern Virginia, and let me tell you, the people there are as power-hungry as the politicians themselves. The Washingon DC area ranks as one of the least friendly places in the USA - rather cold, clicky people that I just couldn't stand after a while. I live in Tennessee now and the difference is like between night and day. Very nice people here, for the most part.


Colin in Wisconsin    Posted 02-14-2004 at 15:28:09       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I grew up in Rhode Island, spending my first 26 years there, then a year in NH followed by 10 in VT followed by 6 in NC and now 8 in WI. I would say that that I've encountered friendly and unfriendly folks everywhere I've been and would hesitate to categorize an entire geographic region as being one or the other. From some of the comments you've made, I'd suggest that perhaps you need to get to the root of your discomfort with those around you. The problems we have to deal with in life are rarely entirely someone else's fault. Good luck.


Coon Catcher Clay    Posted 02-14-2004 at 13:37:55       [Reply]  [Send Email]
If you people up north can't find anyone to smile at you come on down to north Georgia.I will gladly donate one of my famous smiles to anyone that needs it.It ain't pretty [no teeth] but I guarantee it will make you smile back and maybe even laugh a little.


Lori    Posted 02-14-2004 at 13:00:26       [Reply]  [No Email]
I live in UPSTATE NY. Many people around the country assume when you say NY..you are in "the city" I'm in my mid-fourties and have been to "the city" twice. It's not even a nice place to visit, and I can't imagine living there. My sister moved to Jacksonville FL immediately after graduation and the crimes and unfriendliness of the people drove her home within 6 months. Back to the "Northerners"


Gloria    Posted 02-15-2004 at 03:03:12       [Reply]  [No Email]
I live in upstate NY myself. I NEVER say I'm from NY because of the stigma of NYC. I have never been to NYC and I am not one bit interested in going there.


mike    Posted 02-14-2004 at 13:55:36       [Reply]  [No Email]
I'm from NY as well, on the Vt border.I can get along most anyone till they get on my nerves. If you go looking for trouble chances are you'll find it


Lori    Posted 02-14-2004 at 18:29:53       [Reply]  [No Email]
Hey mike, you must be near Lake Champlain? I spent a lot of my childhood in the Adirondacks and made the ferry trip into Vermont many, many times. Beautiful country.


~Lenore    Posted 02-14-2004 at 11:59:50       [Reply]  [No Email]
Aprille, my understanding of PC or political correctness, it has nothing to do with manners, personallity or individual behavior. In fact individuality is a thorn in PC purpose.

It is actually the language of Utopianism, that perfect land where every human speaks only the "correct" way. Where everyone's mind is cleansed to the chosen PC mind. Just like Orville's book.

The following is an essay on it that might explain more about political correctness.


Jim inMinn.    Posted 02-14-2004 at 12:34:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Lenore, I think your talking over her head. Got to come down a couple phrases.


~Lenore OOPs!    Posted 02-14-2004 at 13:22:06       [Reply]  [No Email]
I did not mean to.
My pal Clod would have been proud of that post I did.
He is the one who "edgeucated" me,
Shucks I miss him.
Excuse my rambling, please; I am sick, got a fever, coughing and probably should be in bed.
;-)


Dieselrider    Posted 02-14-2004 at 12:24:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
My dad and I went to Alaska in 1986 for a moose hunt. While there I found and bought this t-shirt that said " Alaska- Land of the individual and other endangered species" I really liked that shirt, I wish I still had it. I just thought it fit here. Lol


~Lenore    Posted 02-14-2004 at 12:28:39       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yes it does fit here;
but it does not fit in political correctness.
Thankfully we do not fit in that cookie cutter PC mold.
Texans don't either,
well most don't.


Les    Posted 02-14-2004 at 11:57:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a friend who used to work with me at the Co-op. He's from South Carolina and has moved back there. One day I commented to him about how (in general) southerners were a whole lot friendlier people. I was somewhat surprised at his response to me. "Yes, but when you have a friend up here in New Hampshire, you REALLY have a friend."
Made me feel real good, it did.
Go up the street to the Baptist church some day and meet Everett Palmer. He's about the friendliest guy you could know. Tell him I sent you.


Mike in Wisc.    Posted 02-14-2004 at 11:25:24       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Actually, that is only partialy correct. What you are talking about is NOT Northerners, but rather Northeasterners. They are not the same.

Yes, it is a generalization. There are some really nice people in the Northeast, but as a general rule, the EXTREMELY UPTIGHT tend to dominate that area.

I work as a stockbroker and am on the phone with people in New York almost every day. I know what you mean. Rudeness and extreme agression seem to be the norm.

However, it is NOT like that in the rest of the North. From Western PA, to OH, and into the Midwest through the plains, you find a much larger percentage of honest hard working genuinely friendly people.

Take Iowa for example. By and large you find the same kind of mindset there that dominated small town America in the 1950s. (Its just like Beaver Cleaver). I don't find that negative at all. In fact, I like to visit there.

I do not think it is fair to lump us (northerners) all together.

My opinion only.


bob ny    Posted 02-14-2004 at 12:48:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
as you can tell i live in ny. you say all nyrs are rude have you ever been in downsville ny,otisville ny, ghramsville my,walton ny if mot please refrain from saying all nyrs are rude untill you have been to ny thank you


Denise    Posted 09-11-2005 at 09:17:45       [Reply]  [No Email]
I lived in Walton ny and the reason why they are so friendly is because it is sooooo boring and theres nothing else to do but be friendly. I am so glad I moved back to Sullivan County ny!!!!


Fawteen    Posted 02-14-2004 at 11:38:57       [Reply]  [No Email]
Ya can't get much further Northeast than me.

I think your generalization about folks from the NE might need a bit of fine tuning. True, we tend to mind our own business. Strangers think we're being rude or standoffish, but most of us are waiting to see what kind of folks they are before jumping in with a big smile and a howdy.

Now CITIES in the NE, most especially Boston and New York, meet your description to a tee. At least, based on my (admittedly limited) experience.


Mike in tn    Posted 02-15-2004 at 13:27:24       [Reply]  [No Email]
Fawteen, that is exactly what she is talking about. You don't have to prove yourself to get a smile in the south. We assume that you are OK until you prove different. I can't imagine living in a place that you have to be graded to be treated pleasantly. Do you treat people as guilty until proven otherwise? How long does it take, and what do you have to do to be blessed with a smile in your area? Ever thought about moving? The sun wouldn't set on my a$$ in a place like that. It's not the north, I have met some really people from there.
Mike


Mike in Wisc.    Posted 02-14-2004 at 12:02:18       [Reply]  [Send Email]
Have to admit that you are correct. My experience with the Northeast has been limited to Boston and New York. I do not know about the outlying areas. However, New York City is one of the LAST places in the US that I would want to live in.

And it is NOT just a big city mentality. I have been to a lot of other larce cities where people understood the importance of civility. New York and Paris seem to have captured the market on rudeness and arrogance.

Didn't mean to paint everyone the same, was only talking about what I have seen.


Fawteen    Posted 02-14-2004 at 12:33:33       [Reply]  [No Email]
Yup, know what ya mean. I'm in Eastern Maine, about 70 miles from the Canadian border. I think you'll find that out here in the sticks, folks is folks.

Heck, I've even met a couple of nice people from rural Massivetwoschitts. ":^)

I'm with you. Drove through NYC once, that's as close as I ever care to come again. Ditto Boston, except circumstances have forced me to drive through it more than once...


Patria    Posted 02-14-2004 at 11:24:17       [Reply]  [No Email]
Come'n Aprille, don't be shy, tell us exactly how you feel..lol!

Sorry but as I see it, at the moment YOU are the one being rude and ignorant by generalizing about northeners maners, although I don't expect you will 'even admit it'..:-)

Relax girla, it's V-day!
Patria


Steve from TN    Posted 02-14-2004 at 11:07:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
One thing I have learned in my golden years is to never paint all people with the same brush. I guess you could call me a southern boy and I reckon Illinois is a northern state. Agreed? I was hauling tomatoes to Indy back several years ago and was headed home across Illinois when a fan belt broke. There wasn't a fanbelt to fit my truck in the town where I broke down. One of those terrible yankees drove me all around that town and about 6 miles over to the next town where we found the belt. He took me back to my truck and made sure that I got it going again. I think he was a good ole county boy just like me. I have forgotten his name, but I have not forgotten his kindness. BTW, he wasn't the only person that helped that day. There are snotty people living in every great state in this United States and good ones too.


Aprille    Posted 02-14-2004 at 11:21:34       [Reply]  [Send Email]
No I wouldn't call Indiana a Northern state..I'm talking about New England specifically..and if u knew me as a person you would not even think the things I wrote came out of me..I was always the nice lil trusting soul who believed alll people were good..deep inside..this still after my friend was brutally murdered when I was little ..almost getting molested by my mother's boyfriends' twice and seeing how the underbelly of life crawls being raised in the Combat Zone in Boston..it took me til I was 40 yrs old to realise NOT to have trust and respect for people..until they showed me some too..I have been more places than alot of people..and I don't mean literally..and yet here I be now..still happy..well-adjusted,gorgeous..heeheehee..looking completely untouched by what has happened to me in my life..but I know what I know


bob ny    Posted 02-14-2004 at 12:52:59       [Reply]  [No Email]
you say untouched by your past. lady you are carrying the whole package from your past you need help


Jon(WI)    Posted 02-14-2004 at 18:27:14       [Reply]  [No Email]
Wrong Bob! She's beyond help!


linds    Posted 03-30-2009 at 07:28:53       [Reply]  [Send Email]
I have lived in northeast Ohio my whole life. In general I am very
happy person. I have always felt out of place here. At one point I
actually thought I had social anxiety disorder, but it's because it's
so hard to be friendly here.it actuallybothers some people if your
too friendly. It's really bad in the winter. Everyone is like zombies
and in a really bad mood. After staying in Texas for a couple
months temporarily, I had a huge revelation. It's not me, it's the
others making me feel socially anxious. People in the south are
truly, genuinly nice. It took me a while to get used to strangers
smiling at me, or waving as I drive by. It's just so great to be in a
place where there is so much positivity. In Ohio it's like everyone
is in their own clicks. You have to earn their trust and earn the
niceness. Most of the people here regulate how they treat you
based on how nice your clothes are, what you drive, and how
much education you have. It's sad isnt it? Its like everyone is
uptight because everybody always observes and analyzes each
other. My mom is an extremely happy , outgoing, loving person.
She would fit in perfect in Key West. These ladies waiting behind
her in the grocery store were cracking on her saying shewas on
drugs because she was laughing with the cashier. Enough said.If
you are a girl here and you are too friendly and nice right away
they think sometimes you are a lesbian. People think you are
trying to scam them, or your a shady person if you are nice to
them. We are in a little bubble of negativity. I really think that the
weatherand the air quality here has a huge factor on why
people act like they do. I feel like as soon as I hit the Ohio
border I can see the changes in places and people. The robotic
sterile, institution feeling starts to fade. The people are less
judgemental. You feel like a human being and not invisible. You
are l acknowled genuinely even if your a passerby. The positity
flows from one person the next, it like everyone feeds off each
others niceness.I loved having random conversations with
people that don't have a chip on their shoulder 24/7. It's so great
and I really miss it. Okay my therapy talk is done. So if you are
in the north, and it seems strange. That is because it is.


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