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Outdoor furnace feedback?
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CAH    Posted 02-17-2004 at 09:31:07       [Reply]  [No Email]
Does anyone use or have a neighbor who uses an outdoor furnace. I am trying to find true feedback, not company provided feedback. There are a lot of companies out there and I know they won't mention customers that were unhappy. Do they work as well as they claim. Can they be loaded once a day as claimed. I would appreciate anyone who has any comments. Thanks.


BOSS    Posted 02-17-2004 at 20:22:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
I have a Central Boiler, I love it, going on the 3rd year now. After you learn the thing, it is great.
One thing I learned is burn green wood !! it burns slower and not as hot, but you only need it hot enough to heat the water. and put in unsplit logs, that also burns slower.


rhudson    Posted 02-17-2004 at 18:55:01       [Reply]  [Send Email]
i like mine, it was a freebie for the unhooking and picking up. in my case, i have trees falling on fences and in pastures all year, they have to be gotten up which means they have to be cut up in most cases. so the wood is kinda "free". people sometimes unhook them because they are not as young as they used to be so cutting and splitting the fuel is not an option. you gotta admit that its a pain to get out of a confortable warm chair to go out in bad weather to fuel up the stove. sometimes its a lot easier to just turn on the oil/gas furnance. i like the stainless steel units like hardy, but i don't think i could afford it. someone on the net had plans for sale for a unit that had a door large enough to load in old pallets. put in the underground pipes and electrical feeds the correct way with lots of insulation. i use a x10 control unit to cut on lights at the back of the house and at the stove shed with one switch.

keep an extra hotwater pump handy or know where to get one on short notice. use a tall smoke stack if possable since these stoves burn cold and ineffecient which means lotts of smoke. like always, have a back up source of heat in case something happens that you cannot do the physical labor of fueling up the stove.

i love an in house wood stove, but don't like the ashes all over my stuff or the danger with kids and fire. i'll never forget having a "place" to go to get warm when i was a kid and we had wood stoves. with central heat there is no "place" to go.


Les    Posted 02-17-2004 at 17:46:42       [Reply]  [No Email]
Well, I finally got around to reading the thread.
Yes, I have a Central Boiler to heat two homes. There's lots of things I would do different were I to do it again. The run is so long to the houses that I lose a lot of heat. Plus mine wasn't insulated all that great to begin with.
I burn at LEAST 20 cords of wood/winter. I get my wood for nothing but there's still a huge amount of work to putting it up. Plus, it has to be tended and you can't leave without having someone else come in for you.
I fill mine the same as Mike said on his.
I did have a leak which I got fixed but there is still another one, probably in a coupling somewhere underground.
I like doing firewood. But what I don't like is HAVING to do firewood. I think I would be way ahead of the game to sell the firewood and use the money to buy oil. I have a huge homemade woodsplitter on my Case VAC tractor to split the wood with. A tree company delivers me junk wood for nothing, plus I cut some on my own land and scrounge other stuff as the opportunity arises. At my age (56), I'm more than ready to take a break from HAVING to do the wood and tend the fire.
The Central Boiler units are quite expensive. They've made a lot of good improvements since I've had mine (5 years). They are a good company. Can't speak for any others.


deadcarp    Posted 02-17-2004 at 12:03:31       [Reply]  [No Email]
yep but mine's homemade and needs another 100 gallons of storage (i have 200 now - 100 in the stove and 100 in a stock tank)- without thermal storage you can't get an even heat for any length of time so plan on a tank. with like a huge (1000 gals) tank you could probly fire one day/week or less. :)


CAH    Posted 02-17-2004 at 12:50:09       [Reply]  [No Email]
deadcarp, I have looked at your system at leat 6 other times. I understand it more and more each time. Did you make the firebox yourself? Does the 250 gals keep up vs. the two 100 gal tanks? How much wood do you go through in a winter? If I remember right you heat two buildings, roughly what sq ft. do you heat with it?
Thanks


deadcarp    Posted 02-17-2004 at 18:43:10       [Reply]  [No Email]
well i need to update the sketch some. we sold the motel, moved the boiler and just heat our place with it now. like they recommend, it will provide 90% of the heat 90% of the time so be sure and have backup. in my case most of the down time has been tinkering but things can always plug up or leak.

Questions: "Did you make the firebox yourself?" yep, i took the sketches to a steel outfit, they bent & cut everything and my cousin welded it together. it's much like a tall barrel stove in water. (except the front is dry.)

"Does the 250 gals keep up vs. the two 100 gal tanks?" the originals were only 55 gal drums and
yep bigger is better.

"How much wood do you go through--" at the motel about 10 cords/year. here it's kinda coasting at about 5-6 cords/year.

"--roughly what sq ft--" the motel was about 2000
and the house about 1500 there - here we only have about 1000 sq ft.


mike    Posted 02-17-2004 at 12:21:54       [Reply]  [No Email]
just how cold does it get at your place? 13 below at my house yesterday. My stove has about 375 gallon capacity, always puzzled me as to why Taylor marketed it as a 450 model but try not to stay up nights worrying about it


Manitoba    Posted 02-17-2004 at 11:23:03       [Reply]  [No Email]
Unless you have an ample supply of free fire wood,
and you have more than your house to heat, I would reconsider...I removed mine after two winters and took a loss...


CAH    Posted 02-17-2004 at 12:36:16       [Reply]  [No Email]
Manitoba, why exactly did you remove it? What were you unhappy with? I have free wood, not counting my time, and I have two building to heat. But I am doing it with wood air system, would I burn less wood with an outdoor furnace water system? Did you do through a lot of wood?
Thanks


mike    Posted 02-17-2004 at 11:50:08       [Reply]  [No Email]
why were you unhappy? and what wood furnace did you have? There are a couple of wanna-be look-alike stoves that are marginal quality.


Ron/PA    Posted 02-17-2004 at 10:46:19       [Reply]  [No Email]
Not sure if it was Les, or Deadcarp, that was ready to rip theirs out. I can't really help you any since all of mine have been homade ones that I scavaged from furnace projects that I had to do.
Later
Ron


mike    Posted 02-17-2004 at 10:55:27       [Reply]  [No Email]
Les had some welding to fix a leak and I believe it still leaks; he wasn't happy. I load my stove twice a day except in bitter cold when before I go to bed I try and refill it. a happy w/ my stove mike


mike    Posted 02-17-2004 at 10:16:29       [Reply]  [No Email]
new here but if I was to rank my smarter decissions putting in that outdoor wood furnace would be towards the top of my list.I put in a Taylor w/ hot water baseboard heat.I don't go preaching outdoor woodstoves are the answer to all problems, but if you had any questions I'd try and help you


CAH    Posted 02-17-2004 at 12:40:21       [Reply]  [No Email]
Mike, did you burn wood before that? I know there are variables but how much wood do you go through? How often do you load it in cold weather? Is there anything you are unhappy with or wish you did different? What was their claim to sq ft. it would heat? Was that claim accurate? Thanks


mike    Posted 02-17-2004 at 12:50:51       [Reply]  [No Email]
we used to heat w/ just a wood stove in the house. Hard to regulate the temp, was either 90* or 60* Then along came the boys and we decided to put in the outdoor wood furnace to keep a steady 68-70* temp. We use more wood yes; but we don't have the temp fluctuations plus we also have our domestic hot water for showers and laundry and such.I feed the stove in the morning and late afternoon in normal weather and couple weeks when we were seeing 20 below temps and worse I'd check it whenever I walked by and stuff it as full as I could


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