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Topic: 4 Wheelers
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Taylor Lambert

10-05-2004 20:21:02
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We had an interesting weekend at our wood waste landfill. Sometime over the weekend two 4 wheelers ran into our landfill we run for Tiffin Motor Homes. We have always had a problem with them since it was opened by my dad for Belmont Homes that made house trailers. Its a 77 acre site with lots of deep hills and hollow that we run like a state park its doesnt even resemble a landfill. We have alot of flowers and all planted there mostly Canna Lilies We have been having some ride into the same spot and walk around in the rubbish site. I cant tell if they are trying to get us shut down or are just nosey. The EPA in the last 10 years have us ranked as the number one waste site in Mississippi since we keep it clean and have never been written up. We came in Monday morning and found one of our gate postes pulled out of the ground. And the ditch at the end of the culvert mauled where an atv went head first into the ditch at the culverts end. Best I can tell since it is next to a hollow they came off the highway and didnt see the ditch they keep our reflectors that mark the ends of the culvert torn down. Our gate is a 2 inch 4 rail pipe fence and it goes to a 2 inch post edge of the hollow starts down that point so it has 3/8 mark cable for fencing down to a boulder. They had the post pulled down from winching and our 4000 Ford tractor had someone trying to start it. A neighbor said they had done it about 11:30 Saturday night. The best I can figure is that where i had backed the bushhog over the end of the culvert pipe on downhill side the ditch is about 2 feet wide and 3 feet deep. The other 4 wheeler went to the barn about 1/2 mile away into the landfill to get the tractor but it wouldnt start because of the battery so its getting a hidden kill switch on it tomorrow. My boss is wanting the whole landfill fenced in with Hog wire and an inside right of way to check it. Im getting to a point where i hate all 4 wheelers because of all the work we have to do over because they destroy the slopes and all our flower beds and picnic spots, And one thing that causes me to hate them more and more is that when you catch them and tell them that if i cant keep them out i could get the landfill shut down and they come right back. One of the bosses at the office of tthe Motor home plant gave a few lead men keys to deer hunt over there in November but now keys are all over had to change the locks and I may go to using a different lock over the weekends that i dont have to work.
Im going tomorow to buy 400 dolars worth of game camera and another 250 dollars worth of steel to make them armored to place them around and see who all comes in and out over the weekends. I may get dad lock the gate Friday with me in side ill just park my truck in the shed or in the woods on a hill and wait. I hate to let this bother me but it does especially since the last 2 weekends Ive had 3 flower beds, a stone bench and 12 nice sycamore tree saplings destroyed. I may also lay waste to a few deer and let the carcasses drive the others away. I wished we had some cattle laws like Texas has lol I kno the neighboring farmer would like to stop a few 4 wheelers himself. The new sheriff just says its just kids and thats there way. If we get some pictures and locate the folks doing it they can be fined up to 1200 dollars per vehicle and damages seed fertilizer and other expenses added. Again i hate to start a new month off with a rant.

John (MO)

10-06-2004 09:00:31
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If you let people run over you, they will. I suspect you have a fairly small group of offenders and you need to make a serious effort to rid your self of them. I don't think you have to deal with a sherrif who either doesn't care or more likely has more serious issues to deal with. Here if you catch someone trespassing you can press charges without the sherrif. They do not have to be caught in the act by law enforcement. If they are just going to get a slap on the hand by a judge, then you need to go a civil route rather than a criminal route. The civil costs to them could be 100 times worse than criminal costs.

jfky

10-06-2004 04:42:52
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Their is a sentiment in this country right now that whatever you own I have a right to also. The idea of ownership in this country is down the drain-thanks in part to civil rights, liberal propaganda, lack of morals, and social equalization.(everyone is not equal, nother time)
The atvs are just more evidence of this

mojo

10-06-2004 04:42:00
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The cameras are your best bet. Seeings how your a business rather than a private ag operation you can't just do anything and get away with it. Document everything with pictures, reports to the sheriff (something with writing), an interview with someone at the EPA, CYA is the word here cuz lawsuits are something you definitely want to avoid.

Steve from TN

10-06-2004 04:28:50
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It's a shame that we hate 4-wheelers which are just machines that can help us enjoy life. It's a shame that many of this coming generation feel that they can do anything in the world and it's ok as long as they don't get caught and the law says "boys will be boys".

Before I retired from farming, I saw acts of destruction almost every year on my crops. I farmed mostly in the "bottoms" which is our Mississippi River flood plain that is sparsely populated. Hunters ran over mature beans so that they would not have to walk 100 yds. to their stands. Joy riders cut donuts in my fields in my young beans. I never caught a person. Taylor, I hope you do and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. You will become known as an anal orifice, but one to be avoided. Good luck.

Taylor Lambert

10-06-2004 18:02:41
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when we catch them they will get a 500 dollar fine plus any fine for being in the area or crossing a damaged fence. I got me a disc today i found a food plot disc with a flat tire on it so its now chained and master locked to a tree. if its not gone in a few days or the owner doesnt come see me ill un chain it and let the cops come see it the Game warden want to talk with them to. A friend thats a Game warden was given a key today hes gonna go sit a few nights.

Taylor Lambert

10-06-2004 18:01:03
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when we cath them they will get a 500 dollar fine plus any fine for being in the area or crossing a damaged fence. I got me a disc today i found a food plot disc with a fat tire on it so its now chained and master locked to a tree. if its not gone in a few days or the owner doesnt come see me ill un chain it and laet the cops come see it the Game warden want to talk with them to. A friend thats a Game warden was given a key today hes gonna go sit a few nights.

goatmantobe

10-05-2004 21:44:39
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Where in Miss do U live? spent 22yrs. of early life in Laurel.

Taylor Lambert

10-06-2004 17:33:50
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Goatmantobe Im in Iuka its as far north east you can go with out running into TN or AL. Ive been to Laurel a few time doing construction work though.

DD

10-05-2004 20:29:54
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Sounds to me like you have good reason for a rant Taylor. I hope you can get it stopped quikly and without anyone getting hurt : )

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