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Topic: M1 carbine
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s19438

08-29-2009 17:07:28
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got the itch to ghet one of these. i want a shooter not a wallhanger.
local gun shop has a IBM for $675. it looks to be in good condition but i know little of these firearms.
any advice PERTAINING to this firearm will be greatly appreciated.

RN

08-31-2009 09:44:08
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Used to find Hertenberg softpoint ammo for M1 carbine fairly cheap, sometimes Eley would show up a shop. Wisconsin allows M1 carbine for deer as well as .222- we have lots of deer getting hit by cars so not too concerned with cripples, crows have to eat also. Universal, Iver-Johnson make carbines commercially in US, PMC- Pongsan Metals Company/corporation- is brand from Korea I think. Turkey hunters in rifle use states seem to like it- compare it to old 32-20. A few other guns are chambered for the round-might find a Christobel carbine with papers, the Thompson-Center single shots with 14inch barrels do good job with minimal flash. RN

HalWA

08-30-2009 22:02:49
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About 30 years ago, I bought an M1 carbine, about 20 small magazines, 5 30 round magazines, a bunch of stripper clips and about 1000 rounds of military ammo for $100 from a guy I knew that was selling off his guns. It was a lot of fun to plink with, but so is a .22, which is a heck of a lot cheaper to replace ammo for. I haven't hunted for any, but would guess that the M1 carbine ammo is a whole lot less available than it was way back when, when it was pretty cheap.

The M1 carbine was sort of an early assault rifle--not real powerful, but fairly small and light. The M2 version had a selector that could make it full automatic, but since that would qualify it as a machine gun, the M2 would require a very expensive license to be legal. I am pretty sure the M1 carbine is legal as-is.

The cartridge used in the M1 carbine looks like a long pistol cartridge. In fact, I got the chance to fire a revolver that used the M1 carbine ammo. I would guess that it was as or more powerful than the .357magnum, but not nearly as powerful as a .44magnum. As I remember it, what impressed us about that revolver was how loud it was.

I had no idea that the M1 carbines might be that valuable these days. I haven't shot mine in many years. Maybe I should see what I could get in trade...you have got me thinking.

Salmoneye

08-30-2009 09:20:31
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The best 'Fish Shooting' gun ever made...

And yes...We have a 60 day 'fish shooting' season here...


Bill(Wis)

08-30-2009 08:47:13
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The M1 Carbine was purchased by the US during WWII (The Big One) for use by troops that were not on the front line but yet needed a weapon with more effective range than afforded by the M1911A1 .45 pistol. My first line service was in a 4.2 inch heavy mortar company and as an ammunition bearer humping 100 lb loads of ammo, I was issued the M1 carbne which weighed in at 5 1/2 lbs versus the 9 1/2 pound weight of the M1 Garand. Also, being somewhat smaller than the Garand, it was easier to manage and, of course, it's ammo weighed less. Gunners and assistant gunners carried pistols and the squad leader carried the M1 Garand. So, we had, in each mortar squad, a 4.2 inch mortar, four carbines, two pistols and one Garand. Our company commander required us to be not only qualified in each but to attain the coveted "Expert" rating no matter how much time and ammunition it took. That left many little spare time on saturday and sunday afternoons when make up firing was done. He required all of us to wear our marksmanship medals on the Class A uniform so we were hailed as the "ladder outfit". I later served in the artillery and, as I recall, everyone, including the battery commander, carried a carbine. The last time I fired one was in 1962 on a desert firing range in Arizona during a sand storm. Flew away with an expert rating. Nice little weapon but I would not want to own one. There are far better rifles out there for the money but if you're a history buff by all means buy it.

Dave 2N

08-30-2009 06:56:51
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ATF agents are on the way to your place.

s19438

08-30-2009 09:00:34
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"ATF agents are on the way to your place."
they would sorely be disappointed as ALL my firearms are legal.

vabill

08-29-2009 18:55:54
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zip, what is a ibm? bill

GeneMO

08-29-2009 20:20:47
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IBM, as in International Business Machines. Same folks that made the typewriters. Just like Studebaker made Sherman tanks. and IH made M1 Garands .30-06 rifles. Ford Motor company made B-24 bombers. Back then companies made what they could to support the war effort and make a buck.

Gene

Kruse

08-29-2009 20:05:53
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These guns were built by several manufacturers for our government, IBM just happens to be one of them. During WWII, gun manufacturers include Rockola (yea, the juke boxes), IH, national postal meter, springfield armory and several others. Some are worth more than others obviously.
I actually have an M1 carbine that was made in asia. The M1 carbine is an excellent all-around gun.

s19438

08-30-2009 04:52:02
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"I actually have an M1 carbine that was made in asia."

i saw two at the gun show that were made in thailand. both were priced at $795.

Kruse

08-30-2009 11:25:08
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Holy cow!
I almost sold the thing a few months ago. I'm pretty sure that's where mine was made.
Thanks for the update and.......don't tell my wife!

doc

08-29-2009 18:50:08
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i believe they got a reputation for crippling-wounding deer because most folks were shooting military ammo in them.....with a hunting load they are perfect medicine for turkey,average deer. seem to have heard that lots were wore out and had been parts changed out that affected function and price.
i had an uncle once that had one and believed more shots were better than one....don't think he ever hit anything.....

jimp co

08-29-2009 17:39:47
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If it is in good condition, have the head space checked and the barrel to make sure it is shootable,,,, then GRAB IT!!!!!!

that price is well below what they are bringing, especially for an IBM one. If you don't but it, let me know and I will.
JimP

ron,ar

08-29-2009 17:25:09
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see if he has 2 please.

KEH

08-29-2009 17:20:29
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Fires a 110 grain bullet at 1800 fps. Not strong enough for a deer cartridge and I believe states dont allow it for deer. It would do fine of coyotes but rifle is probably not accurate enough for that. Combat range was supposedly up to 300 yards. I think IBM production makes it a little rare but not sure. Recoil is very light and they are fun to shoot. About 40 years ago a handloader told me that a 130 grain cast bullet was needed to work the action with lead bullets. Never owned one so this is limit of my knowledge.

KEH

bill in in

08-29-2009 17:19:26
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I've a Garand not a carbine. I know that CMP has some for sale but not sure about ammo.

TnT

08-29-2009 17:16:13
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Local Big 5 has been advertising the M-1 Garand for about $800. Not sure if that's a deal or not. It appears to be an every day shooter and nothing special. Just a functional 30.06.

aguanga

08-29-2009 17:19:51
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He is looking at the M-1 "Carbine" with the .30 cal round not the .30-06. The Garand you describe is a true "Battle Rifle" the carbine is more of a close range rifle.

GeneMO

08-29-2009 20:17:37
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Yes, the story is that the carbine was developed to replace the .45 ACP pistol, issued to officers. The .45 in untrained hands was very inaccurate. The Carbine was light, manuverable and much more of a stopper.

Gene

rustyj14

08-29-2009 17:35:29
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The officers liked the Carbine, as it was much lighter to carry in combat.
Last week, i attended our Army Reunion here near Pittsburgh, Pa. The Re-enactors had a alarge display of Army weapons and equipment set out on tables, so i went in to look at it.
Well, i must have been a whole lot stronger than i am now, because the M-1, Garand rifle, felt like it weighed a ton! But, i carried one across most of France, and never thought it was that heavy! Same goes for our packs, ammo belts, and everything else we had slung on our bodies, including a canteen, light field pack, and our "possibles" bag! That bag contained a gsa mask when we first got it, but very soon, the gas mask got ripped out and other things got stuffed into it! Very good for carrying K-ration boxes. Folks ask how we could possibly have eaten the things that came in those K-Rations. When you are hungry-they looked and tasted like Filet Mignon!

aguanga

08-29-2009 17:41:51
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9 plus pounds of history. What an all time great rifle. The Carbine is nice but 100 years from now the Garand will still be remembered.

ron,ar

08-29-2009 17:28:42
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I believe the tankers of the day used the carbine. I would rather have the 30 cal also

Jim Black

08-30-2009 04:09:22
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Save your money and buy a quality .22 auto.The .30 cal carbine will be expensive to shoot and has about like shoting the .22.The M1 Grand was a different story, now that was a real rifle.

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