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| REt
09-09-2009 07:44:48
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non political. but picked up the paper and seen where 4 of our marines were killed in an ambush yesterday as they called for air support less than 5 minutes away. Air support said they were afraid civilians might be killed if they attacked the site as they had orders to be sure not to hit them, even though they were repeatedly told it was not a civilian area. Air support never came, even as our troops ran out of ammo. One marine said "the women were passing ammo to the Taliban ambushers and even said you can't trust any of the afgan troops with them as they pass info on to the ememy" Sen Webb is going to get an email from me. We are letting our boys die, bring them back with honors as if that is going to make things right. It doesn't. If we are going to war, win it, or else get out . I don't care if this post gets deleted or not.
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| Wylie Kyote
09-09-2009 14:42:06
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Hi REt. Your message sounds like 'Nam all over. Not knowing who your enemy is, is dangerous for our troops. Allied troops regardless of Nationality are being targeted by these "people". It's looking more like a "war" that cannot be won. Our troops should be out of there.
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| Deb
09-09-2009 13:31:39
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If they are so worried about the cilivians so much, bring our troops home if they are not gonna do anything but let the Taliban kill them, makes NO sense! God bless Our troops!
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| doc
09-09-2009 12:55:48
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what kind of uniform does the taliban wear?
how the crap you post to tell the differance..
same with the palistine's...
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| DAMIFINO
09-09-2009 10:26:14
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That is the same reason why Lt. Calley should never have been railroaded for the My Lai incident.
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| Bkeepr
09-09-2009 10:12:28
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| so much I want to say here, but there's neither room nor time. Bottom line is that none of us know the circumstances of what happened. Could have been misunderstanding of rules of engagement after this weekend's German fiasco, or any other number of things. Sherman's observation about war was both succinct and accurate. That's why we should avoid them whenever possible, and fight to win once we're involved.
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| Redneck
09-09-2009 12:02:28
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Burning homes, killing livestock, raping and pillaging as Sherman's low lifes did is NOT fighting a war! If anyone in history should have been tried and convicted of war crimes it was him and his cronies.
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| ozark mike
09-09-2009 09:23:20
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I'm going to do my best here to try to keep this nonpolitical. I don't want to be the reason that this would be deleted... but someone please explain to me where the difference lies here... when Mr Bush was at the helm, Mr Cheney and all the AM talk show people along with most of the elected elite on the red side of the aisle were saying if we pulled out then it would be "cut and run" and would show weakness of this country... but now that the other dreaded side is in power, the same elite are saying "bring them home now with honor"...........I agree that we should bring them home, or better yet never have sent ground troops in the first place.. or if we had to put people on their soil, finish one war before we start another with an understaffed military without the necessary equipment, I guess we must have learned nothing in south Asia...as I said when I first started on this one...I would try to keep it nonpolitical...mike
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| Dieselrider
09-09-2009 14:12:10
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Ozark Mike, I would be for fighting the war to win the war at all costs but, not to send our troops out on a mission and then desert them to the enemy, which is how I see this action. I don't care who is in the White house when this kind of stuff is done. You are correct in this kind of action smells so much like Vietnam political BS. Don't shoot even if taking fire until you call in and get permission.
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| ron,ar
09-09-2009 09:44:30
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I still believe that reason we went there was in search of Bin Laden and that was a just cause. We should have stayed out of Iraq but that is past us now.
This Afghanistan thing has changed somewhat as we no longer are searching for BinLaden as a primary goal nor fighting AlQuidea but the focus seems to be on controlling the spread of the Tailban. It's a shame about those guys on the ground. Doesn't matter who is in the white house..."there will be no peace in our time"..
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| tm
09-09-2009 17:00:37
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yes we should have stayed out of iraq it was far better for the world and the iraqi people w/saddam in power.and them firing on our planes on daily basis
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| ozark mike
09-09-2009 18:21:46
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| " them firing on our planes on daily basis" tm, if there was a country that was a threat to our nation that was flying over our airspace, should they not be fired on...or do you believe that we would not fire on them...we had been a threat to Iraq for many years and so warranted...as I said earlier and as Ron restated, Iraq was a mistake at that time...finish one war before you start another...as Ron said, Iraq was not going anywhere...all we did by invading at that time was make a bad situation worse...mike
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| tm
09-10-2009 06:04:55
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Do you even know why there was no fly zones established or are you just pretending.AND YOUR FINE W/WHAT THEY DID TO THE KURDS AND THOSE IN SOUTHERN IRAQ? Killing and torture is fine as long as not in our backyard. Then the same should have applied in the Balkans? And in Germany?
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| ron,ar
09-09-2009 17:27:23
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I am not sure if your reply was being sarcastic or honest. I supported the invasion of Iraq from the beginning but not because I believed in WMDs. Our intel was faulty and so were our motives. I believe in getting rid of a tyrant but that is not always the best thing. What we have left is a mess worse than before for the region. We should have remained focused on Bin Laden and found him. Iraq would have waited. Saddam H was not going anywhere, Bin Laden did. Timing is everything. We should have finished the hunt for Bin Laden, caught, prosecuted and punished him. Then we would have been in a better position to look objectively at Iraq. We bungled Iraq plain and simple. Needed better intel, better planning and a better reason.
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| tm
09-10-2009 06:13:42
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How is the region more of a mess? Not only is a brutal dictator out of power. Their ability to make bio-weapons is eliminated.They're having elections women are voting.They were giving aid and comfort to al-qaida. Or hospital care doesn't count?As far as bad intel it was the same as what russia, lebanon and many others had. But they had a financial stake in not going in.
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| ron,ar
09-10-2009 07:32:45
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The region is less stable now, when we pull out there will be a very good chance of all out civil war with three factions, the Sunis, Sheites and Kurds warring it out. Plus the Iranian question falls in there as the central govt in Iraq is weak. We expected a freed Iraq populace to welcome us with open arms as liberators. That did not happen. The country is in shambles there and ripe for civil war. The instability of the region is worsened.
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| tm
09-10-2009 08:20:59
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Gee tey looked pretty happy when we rolled thru the south. We all seen them smiling waving hitting saddam pix. w/sandals. They looked quite pleased when the statue tumbled. I'm sure the germans were british french were not kissing our buts directly after the war either. As far as us pulling out it will not happen maybe combat troops to some extent but we'll remain like Korea. And aslong as we continue to waffle on Iran it will be the continuing unstabling force inthe region.
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| ron,ar
09-10-2009 10:06:02
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no doubt it will be unstable for a long time, but then again no country wants an occupyimg army in their land for an extended time. Even the French eventually threw us out
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| tm
09-10-2009 13:16:23
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| Zenia
09-09-2009 09:00:16
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| REt
09-09-2009 12:54:39
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| GeneSC
09-09-2009 09:11:48
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| You've never needed to register here? I agree bkpr. Bring'um home or "fight to win!"
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| Zenia
09-09-2009 09:19:31
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| You mean you agree with REt. I agree, as well, but what a Catch-22 mess our military is in over there. The Taliban scores every time there is a civilian casualty. But that is no excuse to abandon our soldiers. My heart aches for the soldiers there.
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| Sorry Ret
09-09-2009 09:15:00
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| Dieselrider
09-09-2009 08:59:54
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Do you have a link or anything to the news? I would like to reference it in some letters as well. Thanks.
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| Salmoneye
09-09-2009 08:09:02
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| rayinmo
09-09-2009 08:17:38
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