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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A Modest Proposal

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Posted by Paula on April 09, 2004 at 13:24:53 from (

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: Re: A Modest Proposal posted by Ludwig on April 09, 2004 at 13:15:03:

This is why this topic makes me frustrated.
Responsible energy usage doesn't come down to the
truck I drive. That's just a scapegoat for a lot of
problems we have with energy usage in the USA. Here
are a few:

1. In the middle of the desert we have a huge city that is
purely artificial. All it's resources had to be made (the
hoover dam for electricity for example), the environment
is so hostile to human life that EVERYBODY lives
climate control all year round.

2. In water poor states we grow water intensive crops
so we tax the water table unnecessarily.

3. Energy efficient machines, materials and methods
have been around for decades yet it is impossible to
employ them without taking on some huge additional
cost. For instance, when I set out to build this house I
wanted to use SIPS, a metal roof, synthetic cedar
shingles, active solar panels, a tankless waterheater, a
cistern for collecting rainwater off the roof, etc. What
happened: the banks wouldn't finance the initial
additional cost - it woudn't appraise.

So that's the problem. It's not about SUVs or little sports
cars that only carry two people. It's about a general
attitude that until the last tree is burned up, the last tsp
of oil is sucked out of the ground, we won't make any

It is easier to look at a suburban housewife in her
humvee and think that if she were only more
reasonable the world would be a better place. I
recently participated in a similar discussion thread on entitled "are SUVs immoral". Immoral?
You have domestic terorist groups like ELF running
around setting SUV lots on fire because they object to
the SUV?


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