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Re: Re: 4th of July and Pledge of Allegiance

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Posted by john d - That's an excellent explanation on June 28, 2002 at 10:59:58 from (

In Reply to: Re: 4th of July and Pledge of Allegiance posted by The Rebel on June 27, 2002 at 00:46:41:

of your viewpoint, and I applaud you not only for the balanced way in which you presented your postion, but the articulate manner in which you expressed it!

Things of this sort tend to touch nerves that are too easily left raw. Following the 9/11 mess, there has been a big surge in patriotism, but also a HUGE surge in "patriotism for show" among the population. There seems to be a mindset among some folks that they want to somehow "prove" their patriotism through confrontation with any idea that they deem less patriotic than their own.

I was in elementary school when we had to "re-learn" the Pledge of Allegiance when the words "under God" were added. The Pledge itself wasn't common in schools until the 1940s, and truth be known, there are a LOT of patriotic Americans out there that couldn't sit down and write it word for word if they had to.

I doubt seriously that Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and some others that drafted our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution would easily understand or readily embrace the postion taken by the court. They probably wouldn't easily understand or readily embrace the interstate highway system, cell phones, or antibiotics, either.

The beauty of this country is the freedoms we have, and in a very real sense, we haven't "lost" a lot of freedoms in this country, we've just had to learn to exercise them without trampling on the rights of those who don't believe as we do. We all need to focus on the fact that in many countries, we wouldn't even be having this discussion!

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